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I have owned both auto and manual cars in the past, and for around town driving the auto wins. But once you hit the twisty stuff (whether roads or the track) the auto becomes a royal pain in the arse. I prefer a manual simply because of this, and I just put up with the rowing through the gears around town.

If I commuted in heavy traffic in my car I would seriously have considered an auto instead. But auto boxes in general are a sloppy bitch and I prefer to tell the gears what to do directly. Since my car is mostly a weekend warrior there's no sense in it being an auto.

If you are just looking to improve quarter mile times though, stick with the auto. No sense changing the box one way or the other just for that, unless you are aiming for sub 11's or so. In which case the auto with high stall is better.

This Thread was started on " 07-02-2003" try and not bring up threads that are almost a year old. Cheers

sorry redlineGTR I disagree...why start a new thread and say the same things all over again?

Better to dig up an old thread from the dead and continue the discussion

Couldn't agree more Duncan.

As for an Auto versus Manual,,,the manual has to win but only if the cars a daily driver. Who in there right mind would want to drive around the streets with a 3500 stall converter. My neighbours got a 11 sec commodore and it's nothing but a pain in the arse. He actually loves my Skyline only because it's not revving it's head off ALL the time.

Also BMW's SMG M3's while being an auto shifting manual are slower over the 1/4 than the H pattern version and a lot more troublesome.

Neil.

Also remember that the BMW, Alfa, Ferarri and Maserati systems are clutchless manuals, not automatics with up/down buttons.

Personally I think there is a world of difference between the two, autos are far slower to shift....and whats the point of an auto if you always shift it manually.

I'd take the bettter control any day.

Hi guys, it is so much easier and cheaper to build a 9 sec car with an auto. Easier because you can have a narrower per band. Cheaper to buy ($5k versus $17K) and cheaper to maintain as it is much gentler on the rest of the drive line.

In a circuit race car I couldn't even consider an auto.

In a road car, well if I drove only in traffic all the time, then I would have to consider an auto. But I don't, so its a manual for me.

So horses for courses you might say.

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