Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

Hey everyone!

I am looking at skylines atm, and im hoping to get a R33 GTST or a R32 GTST.

I am on my P plates and i believe both are slightly over the KW/tonne ratio.. though ive seen alot of GTST's on their P's. Can you perhaps add weight to the car to make it legal etc.. ???

Anyway, Is there anyway possible to have a R33 or R32 GTST on P Plates??

Thanks in advance :(

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/103546-p-plate-gtsts/
Share on other sites

The Victorian laws for calculating power to weight are based on the values in the owner's manual. So it doesn't matter how many subwoofers you stick in the boot.

2 seconds on Google to find the URL for VicRoads.

5 seconds on VicRoads to find this.

Seriously, developing the ability to learn without getting spoonfed isn't that difficult or time consuming.

Edited by scathing
Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/103546-p-plate-gtsts/#findComment-1904301
Share on other sites

why do some ppl have to be such c0ckheads, sorry im a bit of a noob when it comes to skylines turboed.. i was just asking if there was a way to get a gtst on ur Ps bcuz the r32 is like 4kw too much and the 33 is like 8kw too much

Please Scathing.. if ur not going to say something helpful dont say it at all..

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/103546-p-plate-gtsts/#findComment-1904488
Share on other sites

why do some ppl have to be such c0ckheads, sorry im a bit of a noob when it comes to skylines turboed.. i was just asking if there was a way to get a gtst on ur Ps bcuz the r32 is like 4kw too much and the 33 is like 8kw too much

Please Scathing.. if ur not going to say something helpful dont say it at all..

Umm how can that be true, 33GTSt's have around 187kw (i think) and r32 gts-t's have 158kw.

R32's are legal, R33's are illegal.

Edited by Lukaz
Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/103546-p-plate-gtsts/#findComment-1904492
Share on other sites

hey dean

where abouts you from???

im from vic, so that means you can legally drive a r32t but not r33t.

i have a r33 gtst... theres heaps of people probably too many (on their P's) with them.

what ever skyline you get... theres probably a high chance that its gonna end up over the limit anyways.

if you drive a skyline with a [P] plate, your gonna get pulled over. most of then time, the coppas dont get you for the over power thingo, let alone illegal mods. if your lucky :)

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/103546-p-plate-gtsts/#findComment-1904734
Share on other sites

cops will do you for a 33. they have recently been given specific instructions.

r32 - 158kw/1260kg = illegal for 1989-1991 coupes

r32 - 158kw/1290kg = legal for 1989 -1993 sedans and 1991 -1993 coupes.

The weights were changed in 1991.

Most R33's are illegal, except for the very few that came with rb20dets, not 25dets.

btw, a simple search, on google or this own site, would answer this query.

Also, most Skyline P Platers are driving illegally

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/103546-p-plate-gtsts/#findComment-1904842
Share on other sites

Please Scathing.. if ur not going to say something helpful dont say it at all..

I gave you your f**king answer right before I suggested you pull your finger out and try doing something for yourself.

How much more helpful did you want me to be than that? :)

Now why don't you go start a "vs" thread?

Edited by scathing
Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/103546-p-plate-gtsts/#findComment-1904971
Share on other sites

hahaha ok ok keep it to the wasteland lol.

anyways.... yeah like someone else has said. 32's are legal in vic. 33's arent.

like a fair few others on here i drive a 33 gts-t on my P's..... iev been lucky enough so far not to get done for it. however it is illegal. that is all.

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/103546-p-plate-gtsts/#findComment-1905330
Share on other sites

cops will do you for a 33. they have recently been given specific instructions.

R33's came out with RB20E's (which are reaaaaly shitty cars and WELL below the power to weight ratio), not RB20DET's.

Most R33's are illegal, except for the very few that came with rb20dets, not 25dets.

Also, most Skyline P Platers are driving illegally

I second this, in VIC, in the last couple of weeks one person I know who owns an R33 on his P's has been asked to provide evidence of why he's driving a car over the power to wieght, and a girl who owns an R33 GTS got questioned if it was a GTSt during an RBT, and even had the officer check under the hood for a turbo etc.

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/103546-p-plate-gtsts/#findComment-1905388
Share on other sites

R33's came out with RB20E's (which are reaaaaly shitty cars and WELL below the power to weight ratio), not RB20DET's.

I second this, in VIC, in the last couple of weeks one person I know who owns an R33 on his P's has been asked to provide evidence of why he's driving a car over the power to wieght, and a girl who owns an R33 GTS got questioned if it was a GTSt during an RBT, and even had the officer check under the hood for a turbo etc.

Yeah ^^ I knew they had one engine that is far too underpowered. :lol:

I am one of few people i know with a thirty two, on my p's, but i know of at least 10 local 33 P Platers.

Cops pulled me up the other night and checked under my bonnet. They only looked at whether or not it was a 2 litre or a 2.5

Kind of weird, as if you had an R32 GTS with the RB25de, or an R33 GTS with said engine, they may overlook they whole turbo tihingy.... anyways the point still stands turbo 33's are illegal

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/103546-p-plate-gtsts/#findComment-1910558
Share on other sites

its around $130 fine all the people i know of you have been done havent had any points taken... so its might be fine and  no points it might depend on what mood the coppers in also! :D

I heard you go to jaol and you live a lonely life :O They charge you for driving a vehicle to powerful and shit. Fines and shit.

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/103546-p-plate-gtsts/#findComment-1917215
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • God damnit. The only option I actually have in the software is the one that is screenshotted. I am glad that I at least got it right... for those two points. Would it actually change anything if I chose/used 80C and 120C as the two points instead? My brain wants to imagine the formula put into HPtuners would be the same equation, otherwise none of this makes sense to me, unless: 1) The formula you put into VCM Scanner/HPTuners is always linear 2) The two points/input pairs are only arbitrary to choose (as the documentation implies) IF the actual scaling of the sensor is linear. then 3) If the scaling is not linear, the two points you choose matter a great deal, because the formula will draw a line between those two points only.
    • Nah, that is hella wrong. If I do a simple linear between 150°C (0.407v) and 50°C (2.98v) I get the formula Temperature = -38.8651*voltage + 165.8181 It is perfectly correct at 50 and 150, but it is as much as 20° out in the region of 110°C, because the actual data is significantly non-linear there. It is no more than 4° out down at the lowest temperatures, but is is seriously shit almost everywhere. I cannot believe that the instruction is to do a 2 point linear fit. I would say the method I used previously would have to be better.
    • When I said "wiring diagram", I meant the car's wiring diagram. You need to understand how and when 12V appears on certain wires/terminals, when 0V is allowed to appear on certain wires/terminals (which is the difference between supply side switching, and earth side switching), for the way that the car is supposed to work without the immobiliser. Then you start looking for those voltages in the appropriate places at the appropriate times (ie, relay terminals, ECU terminals, fuel pump terminals, at different ignition switch positions, and at times such as "immediately after switching to ON" and "say, 5-10s after switching to ON". You will find that you are not getting what you need when and where you need it, and because you understand what you need and when, from working through the wiring diagram, you can then likely work out why you're not getting it. And that will lead you to the mess that has been made of the associated wires around the immobiliser. But seriously, there is no way that we will be able to find or lead you to the fault from here. You will have to do it at the car, because it will be something f**ked up, and there are a near infinite number of ways for it to be f**ked up. The wiring diagram will give you wire colours and pin numbers and so you can do continuity testing and voltage/time probing and start to work out what is right and what is wrong. I can only close my eyes and imagine a rat's nest of wiring under the dash. You can actually see and touch it.
    • So I found this: https://www.efihardware.com/temperature-sensor-voltage-calculator I didn't know what the pullup resistor is. So I thought if I used my table of known values I could estimate it by putting a value into the pullup resistor, and this should line up with the voltages I had measured. Eventually I got this table out of it by using 210ohms as the pullup resistor. 180C 0.232V - Predicted 175C 0.254V - Predicted 170C 0.278V - Predicted 165C 0.305V - Predicted 160C 0.336V - Predicted 155C 0.369V - Predicted 150C 0.407V - Predicted 145C 0.448V - Predicted 140C 0.494V - Predicted 135C 0.545V - Predicted 130C 0.603V - Predicted 125C 0.668V - Predicted 120C 0.740V - Predicted 115C 0.817V - Predicted 110C 0.914V - Predicted 105C 1.023V - Predicted 100C 1.15V 90C 1.42V - Predicted 85C 1.59V 80C 1.74V 75C 1.94V 70C 2.10V 65C 2.33V 60C 2.56V 58C 2.68V 57C 2.70V 56C 2.74V 55C 2.78V 54C 2.80V 50C 2.98V 49C 3.06V 47C 3.18V 45C 3.23V 43C 3.36V 40C 3.51V 37C 3.67V 35C 3.75V 30C 4.00V As before, the formula in HPTuners is here: https://www.hptuners.com/documentation/files/VCM-Scanner/Content/vcm_scanner/defining_a_transform.htm?Highlight=defining a transform Specifically: In my case I used 50C and 150C, given the sensor is supposedly for that. Input 1 = 2.98V Output 1 = 50C Input 2 = 0.407V Output 2 = 150C (0.407-2.98) / (150-50) -2.573/100 = -0.02573 2.98/-0.02573 + 47.045 = 50 So the corresponding formula should be: (Input / -0.02573) + 47.045 = Output.   If someone can confirm my math it'd be great. Supposedly you can pick any two pairs of the data to make this formula.
×
×
  • Create New...