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1. What is an Additional Demerit Point Penalty?

If a driver or motorbike rider commits two or more offences of exceeding the speed limit of more than 20 km/h within a 12 month period, in addition to the standard penalty that applies for each individual offence, the driver/rider will incur either an extra four, six or eight demerit points for the subsequent offence. The additional points will appear as a separate entry on a person's traffic history.

This additional demerit point penalty is also referred to as double demerit points.

2. Who does the additional demerit point penalty apply to?

The additional demerit point penalty will apply to drivers and motorbike riders who commit the following offences in Queensland:

· Exceed the speed limit by at least 21km/h but not more than 30km/h – 4 demerit points;

· Exceed the speed limit by at least 31km/h but not more than 40km/h – 6 demerit points; and

· Exceed the speed limit by more than 40km/h – 8 demerit points

Where a driver/rider commits more than one of these offences within a 12 month period, the person will accumulate double the amount of demerit points on their traffic history for the subsequent offence. The number of demerit points that will apply will be dependent upon the subsequent offence.

Any of the above three offences can be considered a 'first offence' or 'subsequent or later offence' and do not need to be identical. For example, if a person commits an offence of speeding 31-40 km/h within 12 months of committing an offence of speeding 21-30 km/h, the second offence (that is, the 31-40 km/h offence) will incur an additional 6 demerit points.

The additional demerit points are to apply to any subsequent offence committed within 12 months of a previous offence. In other words, for normal demerit point allocations for the above speeding offences to apply, a person must not have any offence involving speeding more than 20 km/h within the previous 12 months. The following table outlines a few different scenarios:

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Scenario 1

Offence Date Offence Description Demerit Points

1/5/06 Speeding more than 40km/h 8

1/8/06 Speeding 21-30km/h 4

1/8/06 Additional demerit point penalty 4

Scenario 2

Offence Date Offence Description Demerit Points

1/5/06 Speeding 13-20km/h 3

1/8/06 Speeding 31-40km/h 6

1/6/07 Speeding more than 40km/h 8

1/6/07 Additional demerit point penalty 8

Scenario 3

Offence Date Offence Description Demerit Points

1/5/06 Speeding 21-30km/h 4

1/8/06 Speeding 13-20km/h 3

No additional demerit point penalty

Scenario 4 – this scenario portrays 3 relevant offences

Offence Date Offence Description Demerit Points

1/5/06 Speeding 21-30km/h 4

1/8/06 Speeding 31-40km/h 6

1/8/06 Additional demerit point penalty 6

1/6/07 Speeding 21-30km/h 4

1/6/07 Additional demerit point penalty 4

A little scary, a mate in teh transport department has just told me about all this.

I guess QLD is getting pretty serious about speeding offenses.

Two half decent offenses within 12months and you are pretty much gone!!!

Yep Government is definitely getting serious about road offences.

My girlfriend works as the PA for a State member of parliment and another thing in the works is the introduction of cameras on "problem roundabouts" i.e specifically roundabouts in residential areas where there are lots of complaints about people drifting around them. Penalty maximum will be loss of car!

mind you I actually think that it is a good thing, if you are the type of tosser that goes out at the first sign of rain and "drifts" in a residential neighbourhood you don't deserve to drive in the first place IMHO!

Yep Government is definitely getting serious about road offences.

My girlfriend works as the PA for a State member of parliment and another thing in the works is the introduction of cameras on "problem roundabouts" i.e specifically roundabouts in residential areas where there are lots of complaints about people drifting around them. Penalty maximum will be loss of car!

mind you I actually think that it is a good thing, if you are the type of tosser that goes out at the first sign of rain and "drifts" in a residential neighbourhood you don't deserve to drive in the first place IMHO!

I reckon most of that is from school holidays and kids with bottles of oil, and the fact thats right FACT that most queenslanders have no idea how to use a round-a-bout.

Either way, wtf is the point of double points. With most of those you would have lost your licence anyway before they took the 2nd lot of points off!

Why dont they just train drivers. So they realise how speed kills. If you go too fast where you cant slow down in time, or turn properly, you crash. Simple equasion!

These sorts of penalties are stupid.

It really doesnt matter how many points are taken if people want to speed/break laws they will.

Get rid of the penalties and start letting people die as consequence to thier actions.

Natural selection.

These sorts of penalties are stupid.

It really doesnt matter how many points are taken if people want to speed/break laws they will.

Get rid of the penalties and start letting people die as consequence to thier actions.

Natural selection.

bahahahahahahaha.....and what if they dont die?? you still going to have an idiot...he'll just be in a lot of

pain for a while

This just reinforces the fact that speeding is teh only thing Qld Police are interested in 'policing'.

For example if you swere unnecessarily, cut people off, fail to use indicators, drive the wrong way up a one way street, reading a novel, have a dog on your lap whilst talking on teh phone and eating a bowl of cereal, you are perfectly safe as long as you're not speeding.

speeding is not the main factor in accidents its people who drive like dickheads and dont pay any attention to the conditions around them. Speeding is one of the lowest factors in accidents below inatentive driving, drink driving and fatigue. The traffic laws in queensland are f**ked and the law has nothing better to do with there time then bust people on stupid little offences and pick on the majority of us. For starters a drink driver can get a work licence but a person who looses there licence in a suspension, through demerit points etc where is the justice in that.f**k normal people they say we will just let the drink drivers go hey

...a drink driver can get a work licence but a person who looses there licence in a suspension, through demerit points etc where is the justice in that...

I believe if you loose your licence on accumulated demerit points, you are given the option of a 3mth suspension or 6mth 1pt licence.

I reckon most of that is from school holidays and kids with bottles of oil, and the fact thats right FACT that most queenslanders have no idea how to use a round-a-bout.

Either way, wtf is the point of double points. With most of those you would have lost your licence anyway before they took the 2nd lot of points off!

Why dont they just train drivers. So they realise how speed kills. If you go too fast where you cant slow down in time, or turn properly, you crash. Simple equasion!

I believe the roundabout cowboys you are referring to actually have their own website.

www.nissansilvia.com

"I have a dream"

:cough:

I believe that if you don't break any laws then you have nothing to worry about.

On the other hand if you are me, then you are above the law so it does not matter.

:cough:

Foot Note: I am joking

On a postive and constructive note...

I think these laws will help decrease people speeding and thats what they are trying to do.

I also think they need to police my road at about 3am in the morning to stop the trucks from rat running to sandgate rd.

Some of them are going 90-100kph

Thats about as bad as a car doing 300kph....

Even then i reckon the truck would do more damage...

I believe if you loose your licence on accumulated demerit points, you are given the option of a 3mth suspension or 6mth 1pt licence.

It's 12 months on one point,,

I've had two of those licence's

But, if you lose that one point, then it is and automatic 6 month disqualification,,

I've had one of those too,, lol

:P

cheers

John

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