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They are scared that toyota will win with they superior technology, remember the last japanese car maker that handed holden and ford their ass on a plate and still holds the fastest bathurst race time after all these years.

Yeah, Nissan dominated through superior technology, just after Ford dominated with superior technology & BMW dominated with superior technology and so on. The GT-R is slower around Bathurst than a V8 - Murphy did a 2.06 a couple years back. It is more about the regulations than the inherent ability of the cars.

Also, it is not about technology. The teams use any amount of technology: from their CNC milling machines, their Finite element analysis computer stress calculation systems, their data logging systems etc etc etc. To say that an engine is advanced because it has 4 valves per cyclinder is a phurphy. An FJ20 has 4 valves per cylinder - are you saying that is advanced?

The point made at the time (And since) was that another manufacturer would bring relatively little to the series in terms of viewers/crowds/ money etc whereas a marked change in something as fundamental as engines would mean a massive cost & development burden to the remaining teams. That point is still valid today. To be honest how interested do you really think Toyota would be in V8 racing. forget NIssan & Mitsubishi, neither of them can afford it.

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Yeah, Nissan dominated through superior technology, just after Ford dominated with superior technology & BMW dominated with superior technology and so on. The GT-R is slower around Bathurst than a V8 - Murphy did a 2.06 a couple years back. It is more about the regulations than the inherent ability of the cars.

Also, it is not about technology. The teams use any amount of technology: from their CNC milling machines, their Finite element analysis computer stress calculation systems, their data logging systems etc etc etc. To say that an engine is advanced because it has 4 valves per cyclinder is a phurphy. An FJ20 has 4 valves per cylinder - are you saying that is advanced?

The point made at the time (And since) was that another manufacturer would bring relatively little to the series in terms of viewers/crowds/ money etc whereas a marked change in something as fundamental as engines would mean a massive cost & development burden to the remaining teams. That point is still valid today. To be honest how interested do you really think Toyota would be in V8 racing. forget NIssan & Mitsubishi, neither of them can afford it.

How LONG ago did Murphy clock a 2.06?

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Yeah i remember a few years ago toyota was lobing to get into V8 supercars. And all the ford and holden drivers were saying how they don't mind them looking into it, just that they want if throughly investgated, and that if it's in the best interest of the sport.

But i think we all know that they would be shit scared cos toyota could make a great v8 supercar. They are the most profitable car maker in the world (in the next few years they will be selling more cars than GM, plus they won't be selling them for a loss unlike GM) they have racing experiance in the most advance series in the world with formula 1. And i plain don't understand how people think commodores are good cars.

My mum has one for work and i drove it one day and the fit and finish is terible. The steering is vague with no feel or weight. The brakes are wooden and has a slushly pedal. But on the other hand i have driven a BA and find them to be much better.

Back on topic Toyota for the win!!!

What model Commodore was it?

Also its a personal choice, some people like them and some people dont.

Anyway yes I would love to see Toyota in the V8 Supercars, just for a bit of variety. :D

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Yeah, Nissan dominated through superior technology, just after Ford dominated with superior technology & BMW dominated with superior technology and so on. The GT-R is slower around Bathurst than a V8 - Murphy did a 2.06 a couple years back. It is more about the regulations than the inherent ability of the cars.

Also, it is not about technology. The teams use any amount of technology: from their CNC milling machines, their Finite element analysis computer stress calculation systems, their data logging systems etc etc etc. To say that an engine is advanced because it has 4 valves per cyclinder is a phurphy. An FJ20 has 4 valves per cylinder - are you saying that is advanced?

The point made at the time (And since) was that another manufacturer would bring relatively little to the series in terms of viewers/crowds/ money etc whereas a marked change in something as fundamental as engines would mean a massive cost & development burden to the remaining teams. That point is still valid today. To be honest how interested do you really think Toyota would be in V8 racing. forget NIssan & Mitsubishi, neither of them can afford it.

Just a quick insight. The bathurst track has been changed since the quickest time was achieved years ago, and furthermore taken into account how long the GT-R's were lapping compared to Murphy.....think you can work the rest out.

Most cars are quick if you invest the correct number, but it would be better thought to have both cars lap the same course in the same year and make the statement. :P

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would love to see Toyota drop one of there JGTC v8 power supra into the v8 supercars :(

They'd still be around 100hp down on the Holden / Ford donks.

The Toyota engine would be potentially lighter, though.

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Yeah, was a great add...

It'd be good if they could do a 'group A' - dunno bout all you old geezers, but I was too young to see anything.

I don't like the 2 horse race. both teams approach it from the same angle (is red paint or blue paint faster, and if we put a white line on the car, will it corner better?)

Toyota could race the 4000 cc mill (or even 4500), as the rules are maximum size, not minimum. They might even make the same power (well, if they were truly "stock", anyway).

my 2c...

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