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no you wont get charged a toll, but youd want to, because the camera near the gatehouse gets your plate, and you get a nice lil fine afterwards

apparently they dont have the authority to issue payment letters yet, this from "reliable" source

i don't believe it though...

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i went through without a tag about 4 weeks ago and can confirm i got a bill for the toll plus $10 admin for each occurance.

hmm wonder what happened to mine then ..

i wonder what the angle is and wether they take the back or front of the car..

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There are no speed cameras on the M7, but *apparently* they CAN book you for speeding using basic maths:

Speed = Distance over Time.

Seeing as they have the toll plazas and cameras to match your plates to your e-tag (or to scan your plates and send you the bill if you don't have an e-tag) to figure out how much to charge you for the amount of the motorway you've actually used, they can easily figure how long it took you to get between any two (or more) toll plazas along the way.

And *apparently* they don't have to put signs up stating that there are speed cameras there, because there are no speed cameras as such...

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ive been charged the toll plus 10 as well, letter came approx a month after i used it.

since then i have not paid for at least 2 months, cant find the letter (somewhere in the mess on my desk) and so now am hoping they will just let me off without paying since no reminder has been issued so far :yes:

(i doubt it though!)

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There are no speed cameras on the M7, but *apparently* they CAN book you for speeding using basic maths:

Speed = Distance over Time.

Seeing as they have the toll plazas and cameras to match your plates to your e-tag (or to scan your plates and send you the bill if you don't have an e-tag) to figure out how much to charge you for the amount of the motorway you've actually used, they can easily figure how long it took you to get between any two (or more) toll plazas along the way.

And *apparently* they don't have to put signs up stating that there are speed cameras there, because there are no speed cameras as such...

no legislation exists in nsw to book people for a point to point speeding untill then your safe

cameras are going in very soon they were always planned

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There are no speed cameras on the M7, but *apparently* they CAN book you for speeding using basic maths:

Speed = Distance over Time.

Seeing as they have the toll plazas and cameras to match your plates to your e-tag (or to scan your plates and send you the bill if you don't have an e-tag) to figure out how much to charge you for the amount of the motorway you've actually used, they can easily figure how long it took you to get between any two (or more) toll plazas along the way.

And *apparently* they don't have to put signs up stating that there are speed cameras there, because there are no speed cameras as such...

Ya, as fatz said, no such thing yet... Think I got my info from the M7 website... www.roam.com.au

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Any truth to the following?

There are no fixed speed cameras on the M7.

You dont get charged a toll at all, if you dont have a tag.

that was true about the m2 up untill a few months ago, they admitted it on the news after they fixed the cameras. I went thru heaps of times before I got an etag and never got fined

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no legislation exists in nsw to book people for a point to point speeding untill then your safe

cameras are going in very soon they were always planned

I've averaged more than 100km/hr on the M7 a couple of times, and my letterbox has been clear.

If they have to advertise those Safe-T-Cams for trucks (which calculate average speed) then I can't see why they don't have to advertise it for passenger cars.

How many big accidents have there been on the M7? NSW legislation states that the authorities are only allowed to set up fixed speed cameras in known blind spots (I realise this didn't stop them with the Cross City Tunnel, but then again no-one drives through there anyway).

I don't want to be the guinea pig for it, but if I got picked up by a speed camera on the M7 or Cross City Tunnel I'd take it to court, claim they were installed illegally (due to the lack of "black spot" status) so the evidence isn't admissible in court. The burden of proof is on the prosecution, and so I'd like them to supply proof of my speeding without those photos.

And its not like the courts have any love of speed cameras - they've let quite a few people off because of that "checksum code on each photo being wrong" thing that was in the papers a few months ago, as well as when the Harbour Tunnel first opened and the speed cameras installed weren't an approved brand so those fines were overturned. With no other proof aside from evidence that is inadmissible, the defendants have generally won.

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