Savman Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Got no one to tell atm so i am going to post . Just droppeed my gear box by myself and it was probably the hardest thing i have ever had to do on a car. never done one so i am taking an opportunity to boast before i find out that i have fu#$ed something up in the process lol. wooooooooooohooooooooo :laughing-smiley-014: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/126132-just-dropped-my-gear-box/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimmo Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 i reckon i dropped my gtr box at about the same time you did yesterday! Got no one to tell atm so i am going to post . Just droppeed my gear box by myself and it was probably the hardest thing i have ever had to do on a car. never done one so i am taking an opportunity to boast before i find out that i have fu#$ed something up in the process lol. wooooooooooohooooooooo :laughing-smiley-014: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/126132-just-dropped-my-gear-box/#findComment-2330537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANWHOR3 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 I might as well jump on the bandwagon too. I'm contemplating doing it. I've done just about everything else on the car short of removing the gearbox or engine. So how hard was it? got any tips? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/126132-just-dropped-my-gear-box/#findComment-2330669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRHETTx Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 My Dad and I did it on my old r31. It was hard and very annoying, i would imagine an r32 or 33 etc would be even worse with the low ground clearance. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/126132-just-dropped-my-gear-box/#findComment-2330750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANWHOR3 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 My main concern is the weight of the box. It's just so awkard. r33 box = around 70kg. Just for fun, when the garage changed my clutch before, a freind and I tried to pick it up. Let me tell you, it wasn't fun. but then again, i'm not very strong. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/126132-just-dropped-my-gear-box/#findComment-2330845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcent Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Ive done it on my 33-t, I certainly feel your joy in doing it, its a fair accomplishment as it is a fair bastard of a job. good work Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/126132-just-dropped-my-gear-box/#findComment-2331365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad082 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 (edited) i did it myself. the only 2 hard bits are the top centre bolt right, and the tail shaft bolts. the top bolt is just in a prick of a spot for my big hands (thats what you get for being 6' 3" and 80kg and trying to work on a japanese car), and the tail shaft bolts are just damn tight. and after all those hours work it only cost my 90 cents to fix the problem. i had a broken clutch fork pivot bolt. took me about 3 hours to get out (a bit of that was me just lying under the car swearing at the fact the spanner kept falling off the bolt), and about 2 hours to get back on. i thought i went ok, then a few weeks later i got a phone call from my mate who's a mechanic who had to fix a broken pivot bolt in a r33 as well, but it had broken the head off where as mine had broken off at the bell housing. when i went to have a look he said it took him 65 mins to get the box out and clutch off. but my excuse was that he is a qualified mechanic with a full range of tools, and a hoist. i just had the car jacket up on stands. if i ever have to do it again i'm taking it to my father-in-law's work, cause they have a hoist. i was going to use it last time but i didn't know for sure what the problem was and how long it was going to take to fix and i could'nt leave it up on the hoist with no gearbox during the week. what annoyed me was that i put my 3.5" exhaust on when we put the gearbox back in (had stock on there beforehand) and i didn't get to do a before/after drive. i certainly wasn't going to put the stock on and go for a drive then come back and put the 3.5" on as it was getting late cause i was doing it on a weeknight after work. Edited July 15, 2006 by mad082 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/126132-just-dropped-my-gear-box/#findComment-2331597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
burko1 Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 R33 GTST GEARBOX ON THE GROUND BY YOURSELF BASTARD OF A JOB DONE IT MAY TIMES. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/126132-just-dropped-my-gear-box/#findComment-2332643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
88silhouette Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 mate of mine tauight me handy little trick rb20/rb30 gearboxes - on the bottom, there is a little rectangular part of the cast metal sticking out rest this part on a trolley jack - it works out to be the perfect balancing point of the gearbox get the gearbox resting on the trolley jack on that point, and just guide one end of the box with your hand, and it makes things bloody easy just pump pump up the jack and guide it into the bellhousing sounds silly, but cut my last2 gearbox changes by half the time! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/126132-just-dropped-my-gear-box/#findComment-2332683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savman Posted July 16, 2006 Author Share Posted July 16, 2006 I had the same problem with my top bolt, kept dropping the spanner down the back of the engine. In the end I tied it to my wrist so it didn't happen again. That was the hardest part. I was worried about the weight, but in the end I just put a few large bags stuffed full of bubble wrap under the box (I wasn't going to catch it on my own) then just lowered the jack. Worked like a charm. I finally found a good way of doing the tail bolts. Get two spanners for bolt and nut and lock one spanner in where the hydrolic pipe goes in, the jutting out part (not the pipe or something easily bent or damaged). Jam the shaft pinning a crow bar through it and to the floor (long one required). Then snap the bolt, if having trouble extend your tool any way you can and get some leaverage. Pretty hungover today so hopefully I've explained it ok. If anybody has any good ideas on getting that top bolt back in when the box is back on, I would love some ideas. I know it's going to be a tough one. Anybody know where to get OS giken twin/tripple clutches reconditioned in Sydney or anywhere, I know HKS can send them off but I'd rather cut out the middle man. i did it myself. the only 2 hard bits are the top centre bolt right, and the tail shaft bolts. the top bolt is just in a prick of a spot for my big hands (thats what you get for being 6' 3" and 80kg and trying to work on a japanese car), and the tail shaft bolts are just damn tight. and after all those hours work it only cost my 90 cents to fix the problem. i had a broken clutch fork pivot bolt.took me about 3 hours to get out (a bit of that was me just lying under the car swearing at the fact the spanner kept falling off the bolt), and about 2 hours to get back on. i thought i went ok, then a few weeks later i got a phone call from my mate who's a mechanic who had to fix a broken pivot bolt in a r33 as well, but it had broken the head off where as mine had broken off at the bell housing. when i went to have a look he said it took him 65 mins to get the box out and clutch off. but my excuse was that he is a qualified mechanic with a full range of tools, and a hoist. i just had the car jacket up on stands. if i ever have to do it again i'm taking it to my father-in-law's work, cause they have a hoist. i was going to use it last time but i didn't know for sure what the problem was and how long it was going to take to fix and i could'nt leave it up on the hoist with no gearbox during the week. what annoyed me was that i put my 3.5" exhaust on when we put the gearbox back in (had stock on there beforehand) and i didn't get to do a before/after drive. i certainly wasn't going to put the stock on and go for a drive then come back and put the 3.5" on as it was getting late cause i was doing it on a weeknight after work. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/126132-just-dropped-my-gear-box/#findComment-2332715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 40th-edition Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 gotta love pulling out gear boxes.... do acouple every month at work. u should all try a ford telstar the 2.5l models, thats a task!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/126132-just-dropped-my-gear-box/#findComment-2335115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savman Posted July 17, 2006 Author Share Posted July 17, 2006 Fricken allen key bolts. Stripped two allan keys trying to get the Os giken clutch off lol. Soaked the bolts in WD40 and that didn't work. Before i take the angle grinder to them anybody got any ideas? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/126132-just-dropped-my-gear-box/#findComment-2335298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 are you using allen head sockets on a big breaker bar and holding it square to the bolt? should be OK. with the top bolt, the easiest way we have found is 4x1' wobbly extensions (along the top of the box), drop the gearbox cross member and loosen the engine subframe mounts about an inch. off she comes I've never done it on a hoist, must be heaps easier Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/126132-just-dropped-my-gear-box/#findComment-2335381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHDave Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 So you have it out on the floor but not back in yet? The worst is yet to come, matey Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/126132-just-dropped-my-gear-box/#findComment-2336810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savman Posted July 18, 2006 Author Share Posted July 18, 2006 yeah i know, going to have help for that bit though. Still deciding on what clutch to get and which credit card to put it on lol. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/126132-just-dropped-my-gear-box/#findComment-2338688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PT Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 OS Giken rebuild kit: try Jason at www.greenline.jp (~10 days usually after ordering) TR2CD for S13/14 was $850 delivered Kit A (replaces all plates and discs) or ~$1000 for kit B (same but also has new clutch cover). Otomoto were more $$$ Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/126132-just-dropped-my-gear-box/#findComment-2338890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheezy Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 MMMM the joys of having free hoist time takes 5 mins to drop a box for me Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/126132-just-dropped-my-gear-box/#findComment-2338944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb26s13 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 My main concern is the weight of the box. It's just so awkard.r33 box = around 70kg. Just for fun, when the garage changed my clutch before, a freind and I tried to pick it up. Let me tell you, it wasn't fun. but then again, i'm not very strong. yes.. r33 box = back breaker i did it myself. the only 2 hard bits are the top centre bolt right, and the tail shaft bolts. the top bolt is just in a prick of a spot for my big hands (thats what you get for being 6' 3" and 80kg and trying to work on a japanese car) 6ftish.. and 105kg you think you got hands lol unless yours are long and skinny.. i know i'd rather that also.. guys stop winging about the skyline gearbox.. they are PISS EASY compared to a f*kn supra 6speed in my opinion Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/126132-just-dropped-my-gear-box/#findComment-2342454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
racsov500 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 camrys are worse alot worse Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/126132-just-dropped-my-gear-box/#findComment-2342543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
burko1 Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 camrys are worsealot worse I WORKED FOR TOYOTA FOR 8 1/2 YEARS I DON'T MIND THE TOYOTAS Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/126132-just-dropped-my-gear-box/#findComment-2344526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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