Gtr And 1 Intake Mod Rule

[stealth01]

I was just reading on the EPA website about this rule and am I correct in assuming that a GTR with a standard FMIC and pods is legal.

Can anyone comfirm this?

Cheers

[paulr33]

from my knowledge of the rule its ok as the pods would be considered 1 intake mod. if you were to change the intercooler that would count as two intake modifications. best to ask vic roads as a lot of their rules are full of grey areas and exceptions

[dezz]

considering they define an intake change as changing the size or location of an intercooler, id say pods and the stock cooler, or a core of the same dimensions on a GTR is fine.

[stealth01]

Just spoke to the EPA and was told thats its OK to have a standard FMIC and pods.

[ADDICTED2R34s]

so if i did a rb26 conversion and got a enginers i can have a fmc n pods ?

[PIMP_DAT]

^^^^^^^

technically yes i say, but try explaining all that to the boys in blue. i have the hardest problems i even carry around a copy of the epa and vic roads doc and they still dont get it. just think im trying to talk fast to get out of a fine.

[[WLDCRD]]

when i spoke to the EPA last about aftermarket front mounts, they said as long as you can prove it is within stock dimesions then its fine. But i couldnt be assed taking off the front bar to measure up the cooler and just used a stock air box instead!

[khunjeng]

has anyone been defected for this 2 intake mod rule??

[AWDMAT]

ive been defected for 2 intake mod

tmu told me i could remove pod filter or fmic

no 2nd guess's on which one i removed

i now run stock airbox with panel filter and big cai

wont go back to pods

too much hassle

[GTAAAH]

Im sure this has been asked before, but would i get away with a enclosed POD? Legally? Its still a modification but.. not off the shelf, and its roadworthy so.. any ideas?

[dezz]

  r32 gts-turbo said:

Im sure this has been asked before, but would i get away with a enclosed POD? Legally? Its still a modification but.. not off the shelf, and its roadworthy so.. any ideas?

the pod doesnt have to be enclosed as far as i'm aware (although its useless if exposed to the engine bay anyway)....

As long as its secured to the car, and is the only intake mod, its legal

[beefy]

Someone from EPA mentioned if you have a Pod Filter it has to be the Dry kind not the Oil Soaked ones. Anyone confirm this?

The Reason why I ask is because everytime I ring up I get a different response.

Edited August 3, 2006 by beefy

[mr_crust]

what if you have a pod in and enclosed box that you cannot see, and a cooler, what can be done ?

When i called the EPA regarding this i was told only an exposed pod OR a cooler. Unless the car comes with a factory intercooler then you can have a pod as well.

[stealth01]

  beefy said:

Someone from EPA mentioned if you have a Pod Filter it has to be the Dry kind not the Oil Soaked ones. Anyone confirm this?

The Reason why I ask is because everytime I ring up I get a different response.

Oil Soaked pods are illegal, the dry kind are fine.

  mr_crust said:

what if you have a pod in and enclosed box that you cannot see, and a cooler, what can be done ?

When i called the EPA regarding this i was told only an exposed pod OR a cooler. Unless the car comes with a factory intercooler then you can have a pod as well.

Having a pod, whether it be enclosed or not and a Intercooler thats not stock or is relocated is illegal.

A pod with a stock cooler is legal.

A FMIC and stock airbox is legal.

You could get alway with an enclosed pod if the box looked factory, but its still illegal.

Cheers

Edited August 3, 2006 by stealth01

[enoch25]

If that's the case, I need some help. I have actually 'misplaced' my stock air box in my garage (it happens). Can't find it anywhere now. And I have ordered a new FMIC recently. Since I still want my mods to be legal, I want to replace my pod with a stock air box again. Anyone out there willing to sell me their stock air box. I have a R32 GTS-T and I live in the outer east (Knox area).

[khunjeng]

EPA Mod Rules Extract February 2006

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© Intercoolers that are larger than standard or have a different mounting location or are added where none were originally fitted, are permitted only if no other changes to the intake system have been made. In other words, you may have a pod filter or modified/added intercooler, but not both.

Any sensors integral to the original intercooler or intake system must be retrofitted and be in the correct location. Note: aftermarket turbocharging kits that include intercoolers that have been type tested (ADR certified) for the model vehicle are permitted. Documentary proof must be retained to substantiate this.

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(b) Dry element pod type air cleaners are permitted on EFI vehicles. Oiled, oil-soaked or fluid-treated elements are not permitted. Any sensors integral to the original system must be retrofitted to the same approximate location.

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Variable turbocharger boost valves (‘boost controllers’) or other means of altering boost levels are not permitted unless part of an original manufacturer’s fitment. ‘Blow off’ (‘pop off’) valves must be plumbed back into the system. Atmospheric venting is not permitted. External wastegates are not permitted.

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Non-original electronic chips or computers, whether fitted as a direct replacement or in a ‘piggy-back’ configuration, are not permitted to be used in an engine management system unless it can be demonstrated that their installation and use allows the vehicle to meet the appropriate ADR. They must also be sealed or otherwise constructed so as not to be reprogrammable.

So who here can say they do not breah any of the above rules?

[dezz]

me

[R31Nismoid]

With my new setup, me.

Either way, its not a question of who can pass or not.

The rules are there, they are readily accessible.

So next thread about "can i have a pod" gets locked

[khunjeng]

  R31Nismoid said:

With my new setup, me.

Either way, its not a question of who can pass or not.

The rules are there, they are readily accessible.

So next thread about "can i have a pod" gets locked

hehehe...i wold have thought most ppl would have aftermarket ECUs and boost controllers... Pods and ICs are visible and hence gain the majority of the attention. Just don't drive like a hoon or be on P plates...The insurance companies don't seem to care much, having made a massive claim with most of these known on their books they still payed out no quetsions asked. I would have thought they would go to town on this stuff, maybe they do sometimes and I was just lucky.

[enoch25]

  khunjeng said:

hehehe...i wold have thought most ppl would have aftermarket ECUs and boost controllers... Pods and ICs are visible and hence gain the majority of the attention. Just don't drive like a hoon or be on P plates...The insurance companies don't seem to care much, having made a massive claim with most of these known on their books they still payed out no quetsions asked. I would have thought they would go to town on this stuff, maybe they do sometimes and I was just lucky.

Has anyone experience problems with their insurance companies from their mods?