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I've read a few of the threads here about obtaining workshop manuals for the r32/r33/r34. Most of the threads alternate between saying you should buy them, and other people saying someone should scan them in and send them around..

Buying them is often quoted at being around $250, but that's just the R33 ie at shop.importdriver.com.au the price list is -

R31 Gregories Workshop Manual $42.90

R32 Engine Workshop Manual $199.10

R33 Engine Workshop Manual $250.80

R34 Service Manuals & wiring Diagrams $754.60

Isn't it sad Gregories didn't do anything later than the R31 :-(

While I could almost justify the $250, the R34 price is ridiculous! Unfortunately, that's the one I want! They are priced for workshops, not for people wanting to do their own car maintenance.

On Copyright, the threads the moderator has stopped have been suggesting something illegal in Australia, you aren't allowed to buy a copy, scan it, and send to everyone...

However, they do miss one point. It IS completely legal to buy a copy, and for you to come around and borrow it off me, use it, and return it to me. In fact, if you are reading it for research or study you would be able to copy 10% or one chapter.

As far as I can see, there is no problem with a group of us buying a copy, and the person who needs to use it for a project gets to have it for a while. And I'm not making an 'underhanded' suggestion, I reckon I only need it a few times a year!

So if anyone in Melbourne would like to join with me getting the R34 one, send me a message.

..And I've also got a friend in Japan hunting down what they cost there - 'cause for a lot of the diagrams you don't really need English.

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I wonder how it would go if the club (ie. SAU) bought a copy for it's members to use.

Would this be in breech of any law?

If it is possible, then we would just have to get more people to get off their backsides and make some donations to the club !!!

I suppose the problem is that it's a fine line, and the risk of breeching copyright laws and being wacked with a big fine may not be worth the risk.

I think I just answered my own question !!!

J

tony, copyright is recognised internationally.

Jay95R33, theres absolutely nothing wrong with the club buying a manual and then sharing it around members, as long as there is only 1 copy, and there is no charge for it.

Originally posted by Duncan

Jay95R33, theres absolutely nothing wrong with the club buying a manual and then sharing it around members, as long as there is only 1 copy, and there is no charge for it.

Cool - Well I'll chuck in $20 to the pot. Just need another 10-15 people and we've got ourselves a copy.

I'm sure out of all the paying members we should be able to scrape together enough.

:)

I'll host it - I don't give a shit about copyright as the server is not in Aust.  

PM me.  

lol..thats the spirit!

tony, copyright is recognised internationally.

Not in China or Russia..

I think the manual sharing idea isn't a bad one.. as having a library where one copy is shared is of course not illegal.. but i am not sure of the practicalities of sharing it amongst xxxx members in different states

Yeah i'll be in on a R33 copy as well - i'll through in $20 bucks to have a "look" at it - also a good idea by s13 about a .pdf version and only giving access to people who pay some $$$ for the priviledge of using it!! my 2 cents - or $20 bucks rather :)

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dont know how relevant this is but my mums ALWAYS putting in requests at the local library for books she wants to read and the library usually gains a copy within a month. I'm sure if you all chose a fairly large library and put in enough interest they would purchase it. I have borrowed a few workshop manuals for old cars before. just my 2c.

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