intercoolers

[GTS-t VSPEC]

raasclat,

Don't worry about rev210, he loves his stock cooler:D But I do agree that you don't want to go too big, the GTR coolers are about the right upgrade for a stock turbo.

See'ya:burnout:

[rev210]

I don't love my stock cooler, Paul has un-natural ideas about having relations with automobiles and their parts that we don't all share.

The idea is match your flows and you get go. Mismatch the flow and you go slow. (thankyou Doctor Zeus) so don't go slow with flow cost dough crap, when you can be a flow-match-go chap.

The GTR cooler is about the right upgrade for a stock turbo if you like to hit your head with rocks and eat poisonous mushrooms, cause only then will you seem to get a quicker time.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Dave, you can't run full boost with a stock cooler, therefore with a GTR cooler you can, and make much more power. More power will give you better 1/4 times, if you have traction:D

See'ya:burnout:

[rev210]

Full boost on a stock turbo produces about 300HP worth of flow at turbo(that is a stock RB25 turbo not the dinky RB20 one). GTR cooler 450 -500HP worth of flow. Bad match. your at least 150HP out of whack air flow wise. Add the extra volume of the new piping and it's not real flash.

Mate save your money for a mod that will actually make your car go quicker. Front mounted intercooler is barking up the wrong tree at this stage.

For the record I am not against larger intercoolers I am just 'for' getting the right sized one and not pissing money up against the wall with silly mods.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

rev,

Once you've got 12sec with your stock cooler, do the front mount and we'll see if you go quicker:D

See'ya:burnout:

[raasclaat]

what would you suggest?

Originally posted by rev210

Mate save your money for a mod that will actually make your car go quicker. Front mounted intercooler is barking up the wrong tree at this stage.  

[rev210]

No I don't have a spare granite rock to hit my head with, at least not one the right shape to make me believe you.

I believe there are already plenty of front mount advocates past and present running much slower times than me to make the point your looking for. In fact you have one of those cars

[rev210]

Originally posted by raasclaat

what would you suggest?

Exhaust , front dump pipe, ecu remap ($600 worth), Lightflywheel (if its a manual), Pineapples, exhaust cam gear etc..

Have a look at my '13.4sec how to...' in the forced induction section.

[raasclaat]

exhaust has been done. I was thinking of joining in that exhaust cam group buy if it is still happening.

was reading that post earlier..will have a look at it again.

[rev210]

well the cam will be good if you match it up to an ecu remap.

It's very easy to put the cam gear on, do that yourself. Then take it in to get a remap with the cam timing setup while your at it.

Is the exhaust all the way from the turbo back?

The flywheel/clutch mod is a good one too.

[Nexus_SiX]

Hehehehe

"And the prize for the most entertaining post in a

intercooler catagory goes to.... *rustle of envelope*...

Originally posted by rev210

I don't love my stock cooler, Paul has un-natural ideas about having relations with automobiles and their parts that we don't all share.

The idea is match your flows and you get go. Mismatch the flow and you go slow. (thankyou Doctor Zeus) so don't go slow with flow cost dough crap, when you can be a flow-match-go chap.

The GTR cooler is about the right upgrade for a stock turbo if you like to hit your head with rocks and eat poisonous mushrooms, cause only then will you seem to get a quicker time.

Good ole Dr Zeuss

[rev210]

I'd like to thank my producer and the policeman who helped cover up the assasination and the fluctuating monetary market.

thankyou all sooo much

[RJB]

rev210!

So if I have heard right your suggestions are to run your RB better before running it harder, alot of owners seem to talk about "boosting", but for a stock r33 is this the first thing we should be looking at? I like you idea's ie, flow matching, cam gears, ecu remaps etc.... Minor intelligent mods and not the big dumb expensive mods most go on about! Even if you have the money for the big mods you still need to think about your plan of attack as we all wont the most bang for our buck at the end of the day. Like you have pointed out there are a few other things you could spend your I/C money on first.

[rev210]

RJB,

Yeah it's like having a ride in a restricted class race car. In most of these type of classes many components are limited to factory and yet the cars go like stink.Spend some time on efficiency and it pays off every time.

[rob77]

as rev210's said before just running a light weight flywheel dropped his 1/4 mile time by 4/10's of a second... thats a pretty good gain for basically no peak HP gain.

[Guest MODADDIE]

if you havent allready spend your money on a good turbo back exhaust system, you can only push sooo much in if ya cant get it out

[PACEY]

So if you get the boost levels higher then an intercooler would be more of a difference than if you were still running stock?

Whats the best boost controller to go for then?

What are the Apexi AVC-R like?

[rob77]

Personally I like the blitz sbc unit's. they have the rep as being the best in the business with boost control (blitz that is) plus it reads boost in bar as well so acts like a gauge.

[RB20LagWagon]

raasclaat : Get the hybred front mount if places are not stuffing you around you should be able to get it piped and installed for 1400, you have to bargain with them, im talking 800 for the cooler dont pay more, and 600 for the install, you dont have to go to a tuning house back yarders do just as good job, usually heaps cheaper. Then add some timing and up the boost and you will be beating rev210 and this conversation will be over. some type of boost cut etc defender will be needed, there are some people that will do this to the ecu for pretty cheap.

Or you could put in cam gears, untuned. yeah that would be good.

[NO_RSPECT]

i would go for a VR4/evo cooler or a pulsar GtiR cooler front mounted etc.

But obvioulsy been a noob i ordered a big ass one, hehe

might sell it and use my head instead when it arrives