Roll Cages

[Guest Yoda]

Are roll cages really illegal? I've been looking for the law that says that they are, but can't find it. I know they have just made them compulsory for utes (etc) that want to carry passengers in the back, so maybe they have changed the whole roll cage law. also, it might vary from state to state. i'm in WA at the moment, and think that i should be able to have a roll cage. I heard they are illegal because they cant use the 'jaws of life' on them to cut you out in case of an accident. I figure, if my car is so mashed they need the jaws of life even WITH a roll cage, there aint gonna be much of me to cut out....

any thoughts?

[Dragon18]

from what i know of this is in melb roll cages are legal to a certain extent but jap spec ones are not legal preety sure

alot of jop ones bolt onto the floor

the australian standard ones actually connect through the dash into the firewall and are a certain size 40mm thick or somthing while jap ones are 30mm thick.

no one is stoping you from putting one in if its a jap spec one but if you want legal one for racing etc. it will cost ya baout a 1 k to get one made and fitted. but if its for normal driving dont worry about it and if you really want one there are heapz of second hand jap spec ones around =)

Cheers

[RadiuM]

YODA

In WA they are illegal to have a FULL Cage in the car.

However, you are able to get a permit for a half cage or roll bar as they call it. At present I run a full 6 point cage in the car and haven't had any issues with the law at all and it is clearly visible with the huge thick crossbar through the rear window of the car (around 80mm thick with padding).

I have had cops sit on my tail at both traffic lights and on the roads and haven't pulled me over. They have even had a good look at my car while parked at a motorsport event with me there and didn't bother to question it.

It's basically illegal due to the fact that you can smash your head into the bar in an incident and cause yourself damage, but as I see it, its better to have one in the car for safety sake although I hope I never have to use it.

It greatly helps in the handling of the car also which is the main reason I have left it in. If you want one in, you risk a yellow sticker but thats something you have to live with!

Shaun

[Guest Yoda]

Originally posted by RadiuM

YODA

In WA they are illegal to have a FULL Cage in the car.  

However, you are able to get a permit for a half cage or roll bar as they call it.  At present I run a full 6 point cage in the car and haven't had any issues with the law at all and it is clearly visible with the huge thick crossbar through the rear window of the car (around 80mm thick with padding).

It greatly helps in the handling of the car also which is the main reason I have left it in.  If you want one in, you risk a yellow sticker but thats something you have to live with!

Shaun

[Guest Yoda]

3 things:

1. how thick is cage without padding?

2. how much diff it make to handling?

3. where did u get it done?

[RadiuM]

1> after looking at it today, its about 60mm thick without padding.

2> it reduces the car's flex when cornering quite dramatically, im sure the front and rear strut braces also help in keeping the car rock solid.

3> came with the car.

my cousin has a 32 cage that I think he will be selling as his son got a yellow for it in his R and he said they wont be bothering putting it back in. So if you have a 32 and are looking for one I could ask him.

Shaun

[Guest Yoda]

33 cant be much difference though eh? (gts though....)

[RadiuM]

33.. hmm

check Japanese Motorsport or www.nismo.com.au

on one of the sites i saw a cage for 700odd.

Shaun

[R31Nismoid]

i 'might' get one.

the car will eventually see track duties. And it's safer too. not that i'm gonna roll it... but would it also help for other impacts from side/front etc etc ???

extra support i would think would help ?!!?

[blind_elk]

My experience is that insurance companies don't like them. You may not be able to get any insurance on the car, maybe TPPD, but not Comp.