Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

I have been enquiring about cages for my road car of late. And there seems to be so much misinformation floating around. So rather then propogate all the misinformation David Brown from Brown Davis Motorsport will be coming along to next weeks Club Meeting.

He builds cages for Targa Cars, drift cars, club cars, race cars...if they have cages he builds them . He is aslo on teh Advisory Board for CAMS and Vic Roads so you can walk away with all the facts and be able to decide for yourself with the right information what best suits your needs.

No i just have to save up enough money for mine :)

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...howtopic=164024

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/164209-roll-cages-myths-and-fallacies/
Share on other sites

  • Replies 123
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Is anyone from around Mullgrave/Glen Waverley/Dandenong going? I probably won't have a gearbox-in-car by then, but wouldn't mind going along for a chat/meal/drink, so, . . umm, . . . aaahh.. . . Can I bum a lift? :wub:

If I have any money to buy dinner by then.. . . . . (stupid dumb gearbox)

what's the cage for troy... rally stuff?

LOL...becasue if im going to hit somehting, i think im going quick enough that its going to hurt more then i like. I want a half cage so that i can run side intrusion bars that i can bolt in for the track and be legal with on the street.

The ability to actually do some things like Mt Bulla would be a bonus as well.

Is anyone from around Mullgrave/Glen Waverley/Dandenong going? I probably won't have a gearbox-in-car by then, but wouldn't mind going along for a chat/meal/drink, so, . . umm, . . . aaahh.. . . Can I bum a lift? :wub:

If I have any money to buy dinner by then.. . . . . (stupid dumb gearbox)

Post up in the meeting thread. A lot of people come from over that way. R32Bigboy. Belsil80 etc etc. Im sure someone can get you here.

As for the dinner thing, yeh i just eat ppls left overs :stupid:

This might sound silly but on the Winton and Calder days with WRX club do you have to really have a roll cage on slicks since the track is not CAMS? I know you don't need a cage on practice days. Just a thought I had recently. Do they use cams or aasa insurance?

I like the idea of a cage since being paraplegic or retard vs normal = cheap since ours cars are now going faster and the idea of using slicks turns me on.

Its a Supp Reg thing so yeh. No matter what insurance they run under the Supp Regs dictate you need a cage with slicks.

But the cost and availability for 2nd hand slicks means i offset the cost of a cage with one set of tyres :) If they arent as quick as new slicks, they cant be that bad

Yeah, but it wouldn't be CAMS approved, so it's useless for competing with.

I'll be aiming to get one in the latter half of the year. If I roll I'm dead for sure, so it seems like good insurance :O Being tall isn't always great... :P

for what reason is it not approved? Its padded and well designed.As for it being useless for competing in - Its a Drift car - I have taken passengers at Winton before in it.

I had my head around this 2 years ago when I was doing all the CAMS scrutineering training and prac. But not so much today. Not to mention that the cage requirements change a little every year.

Assuming your cage is like most, it does not comply with the FIA / CAMS requirements for cages. For starters if it’s a 6 point it has two many bends in the front legs. Secondly the grade, diameter and wall thickness of the main roll over hoop does not comply with the guidelines. The guidelines are a a known receip for a cage. Cmply wth that and you are fine. Go outside that and you have to spend a lot of money on engineering and FEA analysis to demonstrate the cage is meets/exceeds their guidelines. Does it interfere with the use of window/door/locking mechanicsms, sun visors etc. There are a whole host of things that mean that Jap cages don’t comply.

Competition = PC licence or higher. Not the L2S speed stuff we do :P

hahaha @ the speed stuff you do - how is that more dangerous that coming into a corner with a 170 km/h entry sideways and keeping your foot into it while banging the steering on full lock :cheers:

I have a 4 point rollcage, the top bar is a seperate peice so there is no bends, only two where it bends to the contour of the rear window. It is the approved thickness and has been padded. Made by KSP engineering in Japan.

hahaha @ the speed stuff you do - how is that more dangerous that coming into a corner with a 170 km/h entry sideways and keeping your foot into it while banging the steering on full lock :cheers:

I have a 4 point rollcage, the top bar is a seperate peice so there is no bends, only two where it bends to the contour of the rear window. It is the approved thickness and has been padded. Made by KSP engineering in Japan.

Just because it is made by a reputable company in Japan doesnt mean it meets the regs for CAMS here, look at compliance. Why do cars have to be complied?

Cars out of the UK and Japan are amongst the safest in the world yet as imports, they still have to be changed to meet ADR's, same goes for stuff that might meet Japanese competition equipment regs, doesnt automatically mean it meets CAMS legislation.

It isnt about who goes fastest, who has the more dangerous sport, it is regulations.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • It is a kunfine Android screen . Does anyone know the wirering diagram of the fuga ??
    • just an update to this, poor man pays twice  Tried sanding down the pulleys but it didnt do the trick. Chucked another second hand alternator in the na car which I got for free off my mate and its fixed the squelling. Must have been unlucky with the bearings.    As for my turbo car, I managed to pick up a cwc rb alternator conversion bracket + LS alternator for 250 off marketplace, looked to be in really good nick. Installed it , started the car and its not charging the battery.... ( Im not good with auto elec stuff so im not sure if this was all I needed to do but I verified such by using a multimeter on the battery when the engine was running and I was only getting 12.2v )   I had to modify the earth strap for the new LS alternator , factory earth strap was a 10mm bolt which did not fit the bolt on the LS alternator which was double the size so I cut it off , went to repco bought some ring terminals that fit, crimped it onto the old earth strap and bolted it up to the alternator , started the car and same issue. Ran like shit and was reading 12.2 at the battery.  For a "plug and play" advertised kit thats not very plug and play but alas.  My question is , am I missing something ? Ive been reading that some people recommend upgrading the stock 80 amp alternator fuse to a 140 amp but I dont see how that would stop the alternator charging especially at idle not under load.  Regardless ive pulled it out and am going to get it bench tested by an auto elec tomorrow but it would be handy to know if ive missed something silly or have done something wrong.   
    • My wild guess is that you have popped off an intake pipe....check all of the hoses between the turbo and the throttle for splits or loose clamps.
    • Awesome, thanks for sharing!
    • To provide more specific help, more information is needed. What Android screen? What is its wiring diagram? Does the car's wiring have power at any required BAT and ACC wires, and is the loom's earth good?
×
×
  • Create New...