Vic R33 P Platers

[DjeMz]

there are ways around it!

i know of some people who have taken thier (r33 gts-t) power/weight fine to court, contested it and won!

and now that they have won once.... they can never be fined for it in their same car again!

....and I know of some people who make up stories to try and look cool.

To R31Nismoid and others, a case regarding the legalities of driving a R33 gtst has been contested in court, and has been proven by the defendant that the r33 is in fact, legal to drive on your P plates.

HOWEVER, this case unfortunately did not create precedent for others, but was argued (and won) with some of the following points:

a) How old the car is...

b) How damn close to the power/weight border it is

c) The fact the car is tuned for 105 octane petrol in japan, so those ""FACTORY"" figures are based on higher performance petrol... where as we have 98 octane, therefore performance level of a stock r33 gts-t brand new in japan vs performance of a stock r33 gts-t 14 years later in Australia are alot lower.

d) The cars REAL weight, tested at a weighbridge

The bloke now can get pulled over wherever and whenever and is legally aloud to drive a R33 GTST on his P plates.

Cost of lawyer: $750

Buying a new tie for court: $80

Driving your pride and joy LEGALLY: $Priceless

Edited May 1, 2007 by DjeMz

[R31Nismoid]

Further details of the case #?

[DjeMz]

I will chase it up and let you all know.

[R31Nismoid]

That's what I was saying! you're the one saying the r33 is already illegal for a p plater so can't be made legal.

if the r33 gtst was made to have less power it would be NO LONGER OVER THE POWER TO WEIGHT LAWS.

you REALLY need to work on your comprehension skills.

as for the costs involved, they are irrelevant at the moment. we're discussing all the ways a p plater can legally drive a r33

How are costs irrelevant?

I will chase it up and let you all know.

Thanks

I wouldnt mind checking it all out. I love beating the law thats for sure

[DjeMz]

How are costs irrelevant?

His argument is whether its possible or not, not whether its feasible or not.

Edited May 1, 2007 by DjeMz

[R31Nismoid]

Anything is possible though.

But i live on Earth unfortunately... well... most of the time.

[Basti]

if you could find that case it would be awesome. id pay double that if i could drive my car legally. off the top of your head, why didnt it set a precedent? i thought any case can be used as a precedent because its up to the second judge to decide if its relevant (yr 10 legal studies talking). and how did he end up in court in the first place? before or after getting dicked?

[R31Nismoid]

Precedents can only be set in a higher court.

That would have been heard in the Magistrates court where that cant occur

[DjeMz]

Precedents can only be set in a higher court.

That would have been heard in the Magistrates court where that cant occur

Not necessarily, the Magistrate could have suggested the case be sent up to a higher court, however over a simple traffic related matter, I don't thing he or she would bother, nor the defendant have the time or resources (to afford a high court lawyer when he/she drives a r33 ) to argue much a matter.

The issue MIGHT HAVE (again still trying to chase down the facts) got sent to court after the defendant did not pay the fine and received a court summons to explain why the fine has not been paid or/and the defendant chose to take the matter to court.

[R31Nismoid]

Yeah, thats what i said... didnt i?

I did only get outta bed 5 mins earlier

It has to go to a higher court wether that be appeal or otherwise

[Mulkers]

Mate there's no need to be such a prick about it.

No one said anything about using sandbags. I was thinking along the lines of adding corner weights.

And for your information:

Straight from http://www.arrivealive.vic.gov.au/c_youngGLS_9b.html

Now who's wrong?

Ass is right, (AGAIN ) The weight is always a factory figure, modifications only refer to increases in power, which again works against you.

Your only option is to upgrade to an r32/r31 etc

To get a car Enginereed cost hundreds, if not thousands of dollars.

To get a car ADR Approved (EPA Etc), you can be looking at upwards of $50,000.

It is so unfeasible it is impossible.

This hurts my head. Every post just gets more and more idiotic.

Edited May 2, 2007 by Mulkers

[RCHOO]

So at the end of the day can i drive a R33 GTSt on P Plates ?

[Basti]

yup.

save for a yearly metcard though. cos we'll be using them pretty soon

[JulzR32]

I'm probably wrong here... but i thought the new laws didnt affect those already on their P's, they just remained on the old system? Maybe im wrong here..? I should be safe enough with my lil 32 tho..!

[Rekin]

I'm probably wrong here... but i thought the new laws didnt affect those already on their P's, they just remained on the old system? Maybe im wrong here..? I should be safe enough with my lil 32 tho..!

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...p;#entry3044704

[JulzR32]

k thanks.

[lexi bro!]

Removing the turbo doesnt constitute having a non-turbo car.

Fact of the matter is its still a R33 GTS-t by the build plate, and EPA to boot.

mkay, now had you actually read what my post was about, you would've read that it was not about making it a non-turbo car in form of registration, but lowering the power to weight ratio in order to make it legal for pre june 30th 2007 p-platers.

from the vic roads site

"If your car is modified, you may also need to obtain an engineer's certificate and do your own calculations. You are also required to notify VicRoads of any significant modification. Penalties for not doing so are tough."

go flame me again im just trying to explain how we do it for the victorians

Edited May 4, 2007 by lexi bro!

[R31Nismoid]

Have you read the rest of the posts till then?

[lexi bro!]

yeh couldn't be bothered, was at work and been hitting the champagne.

[Omurru]

So at the end of the day can i drive a R33 GTSt on P Plates ?

lol, I though it was funny.

yeh couldn't be bothered, was at work and been hitting the champagne.

lol, but it's funny cos your dumb.