dan.1337 Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 The other day when coming out of my work carpark, my car (r32, rb20det) lost all compression and moved like a slug. I dropped it off at my mechanic who has just informed me that it has extremely low compression and a rattling noise in the engine. This means that it isn't combusting fuel properly and well...just not going. I think that I have two options now: 1. Strip down the engine and find out what's going on 2. Replace the engine Would anyone have any suggestions in what could have happened? Or any other options I might have? Thanks. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177046-rb20-with-low-compression-rattling-noise/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTshortie Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 Option 1: Would mean labour costs plus rebuild if your intending to keep the RB20 and add forgies Option 2: Replace it with a second hand RB25DET or another RB20 if your tight on funds, make sure you get a leak down and compression test on them before purchase. i'll personally prefer a cheap RB25 and wack it in there., Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177046-rb20-with-low-compression-rattling-noise/#findComment-3235654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon-S14 Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 Were you giving it stick at the time of coming out the car park? Generally speaking motors just dont die and lose compression like that unless they have detonated (cracked ring lands, bottom end bearing and various other things could be damaged) or your oil pump has died causing bearings to run dry and spin. If the motor is stuffed, i'd look into replacing it with an Rb25 (minus the box) and take it from there, you can get them for around 2200 with ecu and loom + all bolt ons. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177046-rb20-with-low-compression-rattling-noise/#findComment-3235748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANWHORE Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 I like GT shortie's second option. Rb20s are cheap as chips (<1k). Rb25, more. If I were to blow my engine, that's the option i'd be taking. Sure, building an engine will make a stronger engine, but they cost a lot. The stock one will take a good whack of power if you look after it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177046-rb20-with-low-compression-rattling-noise/#findComment-3235797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan.1337 Posted July 18, 2007 Author Share Posted July 18, 2007 i'll look into swapping to another rb20. i've already got all the supporting systems for it and it'll probably be an easier swap without having to worry as much about wiring etc. are compression and leakdown tests able to be conducted on an engine not in a car? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177046-rb20-with-low-compression-rattling-noise/#findComment-3236115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 by all means put in a second hand RB20, BUT make sure you figure out why the first one went bang so you don't do it to the new one (ie, dud fuel pump? bad tune? broken injectors?...) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177046-rb20-with-low-compression-rattling-noise/#findComment-3236153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan.1337 Posted July 18, 2007 Author Share Posted July 18, 2007 well, everything was given the twice over and it came back to the engine itself. the fuel pump, injectors and tune were apparantely retested and still running a stoich mixture but the engine is just losing compression somewhere. there is also a worrying rattle inside the engine somewhere which sounds like a loose bearing. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177046-rb20-with-low-compression-rattling-noise/#findComment-3236167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekin Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 you can purchase rb20's for around $400~ Roy purchased a 2nd hand rb20 from wrecker and is running 260kw no worries haha Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177046-rb20-with-low-compression-rattling-noise/#findComment-3236233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan.1337 Posted July 18, 2007 Author Share Posted July 18, 2007 you can purchase rb20's for around $400~Roy purchased a 2nd hand rb20 from wrecker and is running 260kw no worries haha thanks, but would u konw whick wrecker he got it from? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177046-rb20-with-low-compression-rattling-noise/#findComment-3236269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTS4WD Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 For the price of a 25.. you can get a 20.. and some nice mods.. Better off spending money on a 20 and mods.. see if you can repair the 20 and sell to make a little bit of money for more mods.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177046-rb20-with-low-compression-rattling-noise/#findComment-3236291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 well, everything was given the twice over and it came back to the engine itself. the fuel pump, injectors and tune were apparantely retested and still running a stoich mixture but the engine is just losing compression somewhere. there is also a worrying rattle inside the engine somewhere which sounds like a loose bearing. well it shouldn't be running a stoichiometric AFR anywhere except at cruise (light throttle, low load) if it's running stoich anywhere else then you have big problems. anyway, I would do your best to pin point exactly what killed the motor as it wont be much funning fitting a new one then going through it all again. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177046-rb20-with-low-compression-rattling-noise/#findComment-3236923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan.1337 Posted July 18, 2007 Author Share Posted July 18, 2007 it's running stoich at low load and off boost and a tad rich on boost. not sure of the exact afr's tho. would it be worth paying for the motor to be stripped down to find out what's wrong before going further? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177046-rb20-with-low-compression-rattling-noise/#findComment-3237262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordyR31 Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 If they just tested ur fuel pump by adding power and not running in a motor it doesnt mean too much.. Could have been leaning out under boost and running to lean for a while. GTS4WD U could get another with some mods, to catch up to a 25 and then some. Or u could just get the 25 and the base right there for some really good potential. All comes down to how much cash u wanna spend. Spend ur cash now on a 25 and get better results later with mods or spend the same amount on a 20 with mods and have more power than a stock 25 with lower gains for all the mods u do in the future. Liam Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177046-rb20-with-low-compression-rattling-noise/#findComment-3237434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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