Guard Rolling Limit?

[R34NRG]

do u guys think its possible to guard roll 3cm?

ive just got my hands on some dirt cheap gtc's but they wont fit and ive worked out that its around a 3cm increase on the rears and 80mm on the front.

anyone who has done guard rolling could u give me some tips?

also how much would this cost?

[Dean_HR31]

just raise your car a little dude... my wheels stick out by 3 cm's on the rear end...

stretch some tires on & ur laughing.

[adam-__-]

You can flare your guards 30mm, but it'll just gonna f**k up your guards and paint. On the S13's, a dent appears after flaring about 10mm. So it doesn't take much to f**k up your body.

Best bet would be to throw some negative camber on it with stretch tyres.

[~Hypnotik~]

You can flare your guards 30mm, but it'll just gonna f**k up your guards and paint. On the S13's, a dent appears after flaring about 10mm. So it doesn't take much to f**k up your body.

Its not necessarily going to f**k up his guards, but the chances are there that it may happen. S13 guards don't always dent when flaring by more than 10mm, i've seen some flared 30mm with no dent!

R34NRG- What are the widths and offset's of the rims?

[n15m0]

just raise your car a little dude... my wheels stick out by 3 cm's on the rear end...

stretch some tires on & ur laughing.

No point having shit hot wheels and having it sit like a 4wd. It needs to be lowered to gain the neccessary camber. Increasing the height will make it stick out further.

Andru, what happened to those 75mm widebody kit u were gonna get???

[sewid]

Rolling guards wont get you 30mm.

You need to install some flares or flare your guards. Either option requires significant work with painting involved and a big change to the look of your car. Just to fit some wheels.

[R34NRG]

You can flare your guards 30mm, but it'll just gonna f**k up your guards and paint. On the S13's, a dent appears after flaring about 10mm. So it doesn't take much to f**k up your body.

Best bet would be to throw some negative camber on it with stretch tyres.

i heard s13s have the weakest guards there are and thats why they crack and flake alot.

Its not necessarily going to f**k up his guards, but the chances are there that it may happen. S13 guards don't always dent when flaring by more than 10mm, i've seen some flared 30mm with no dent!

R34NRG- What are the widths and offset's of the rims?

FRONT

19 X 8.5 +27

235/35/19

REAR

19 X 9.5 +24

245/35/19

No point having shit hot wheels and having it sit like a 4wd. It needs to be lowered to gain the neccessary camber. Increasing the height will make it stick out further.

Andru, what happened to those 75mm widebody kit u were gonna get???

i kinda bought 5k+ rims and spent another 2000 on suspension. so i dont really have the funds to go wide body atm. so i guess the next best thing is workn the guards

Rolling guards wont get you 30mm.

You need to install some flares or flare your guards. Either option requires significant work with painting involved and a big change to the look of your car. Just to fit some wheels.

yeh i know wat u mean but i just keep thinkin how shit hot its gonna be.....and i gotta do it lol

just some pics of the ones i bought

Edited November 3, 2007 by R34NRG

[adam-__-]

Nice choice on wheels.

Those offsets and width don't seem to be that low or wide. Are you sure you need guard modifications to fit the wheels? I don't know 34 guards so please ignore my inexperience if they clearly don't fit.

[R34NRG]

mate i have no idea, but atm ive got 35+ offsets and the fill the guards out pretty much perfectly.

so i basicly just did the math, from the sound of things they do

[adam-__-]

I know I've asked you how wide your wheels are currently, but I've forgotten. How wide are your wheels again? I always assumed skylines had the same guard clearance as the silvias. I've seen a few S13's with ~9" wheels with 0 offsets and they only needed guards rolled.

Edit: The S13's would've had stretched tyres.

Edited November 3, 2007 by adam-__-

[R34NRG]

mine are 18x8 +35 all sides

[adam-__-]

How wide are your tyres front and rear?

I just wanna do some experiments. To see how else you can do.

[R34NRG]

i know the rears are 230/40

not sure about the fronts lol

[adam-__-]

Yeah, from what I've seen in my calculations, there's not much you can do. You're gonna have to put on some stretched tyres and put some neg camber or just flare your guards.

I never realised how high of a offset you have to run on skylines. Like you said your current wheels of specs, 18x8 +35 with 230/40 are pretty much flush with the rear, these are 18x9 +15 , 225/40 with neg 2 camber on a 180sx:

With these wheels and tyres on your car, they'll stick out and extra ~35mm.

[R34NRG]

i dont know why u would run negative camber like that and waste ur tyres, wen its only 60 a side to roll ur guards

[mitchy_]

they ARE rolled...

you do realise rolling guards is only 'rolling' up the inside edge of the wheel? the outside of the panel doesnt change or move, thats called flaring.

and whilst flaring might be 'cheap' to do, it will need to be resprayed.

[Ronin 09]

Yeah, from what I've seen in my calculations, there's not much you can do. You're gonna have to put on some stretched tyres and put some neg camber or just flare your guards.

I never realised how high of a offset you have to run on skylines. Like you said your current wheels of specs, 18x8 +35 with 230/40 are pretty much flush with the rear, these are 18x9 +15 , 225/40 with neg 2 camber on a 180sx:

With these wheels and tyres on your car, they'll stick out and extra ~35mm.

if they're genuine R34 wheels the specs are 18x9 +30 not +15

[adam-__-]

They're genuine as far as I know, but it's not hard to put 15mm spacers on which will make it equivalent to +15mm offset.