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I have searched and not much was reali said about them. Few topics no responses

The guy selling seems a nice guy etc..

but does anyone actually run there turbos??

Whats the verdict on them?

Response?

Power?

How have they lasted?

any luck with them??

cheers

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I have searched and not much was reali said about them. Few topics no responses

The guy selling seems a nice guy etc..

but does anyone actually run there turbos??

Whats the verdict on them?

Response?

Power?

How have they lasted?

any luck with them??

cheers

Ill be looking at getting a turbo soon, and i had a search on this forum and found that some are really happy and some really unhappy with HG. Looking at their prices, id rather stick with a garret for a little bit extra cash.

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Ill be looking at getting a turbo soon, and i had a search on this forum and found that some are really happy and some really unhappy with HG. Looking at their prices, id rather stick with a garret for a little bit extra cash.

YER I AGREE HAVE SEEN MIXED RESPONSES.. BUT WHEN U SAY ALITTLE EXTRA CASH I HAVENT SEEN IT THAT WAY! ooops caps.

the hypergear turbo and oil lines and dump pipe. around $1000 est out put 270kws

what in the garett range makes that and stays in the 1000 range??? none that ive seen even comes close to that

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I wouldnt buy a journal bearing turbocharger that ISNT both oil and water cooled.

Best bet would be to ring around (yellowpages, search turbochargers) and get quotes for a Rb25 turbo HighFlow job, say "Stage 2" ie big bore to the intake & exhaust housing, 360degree thrust bearing oil and water cooled

see what response / pricing you get. One company out there would surely do them, ie like the Slide highflow Turbos (yes I have one, very happy, but having owned it for a year there would be no way that I would accept a turbo that isnt both oil and water cooled)

and I say thrust/journal bearing as they are roughly 50% cheaper, at least, than a BallBearing equivelant. my journal turbo is above boost pressure at 2400rpm and is at full boost at 4000rpm (1.1bar) from standing start, and hits full boost at 3500rpm when already "on the go" say at 80kmph when I tromp it thru to 110kmph

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yeah oil only I believe

it's gonna get hot, damned hot; you'll need to be religious with your cooling-down methods

I paid ~ $800 for the slide turbo (not available now) and am damned happy with my value for money

if it lasts another year then yes I'll be satisfied, and hopefully then I can afford a 2k turbo

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yeah oil only I believe

it's gonna get hot, damned hot; you'll need to be religious with your cooling-down methods

I paid ~ $800 for the slide turbo (not available now) and am damned happy with my value for money

if it lasts another year then yes I'll be satisfied, and hopefully then I can afford a 2k turbo

hoiw longs it lasted for so far?

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Nothing wrong with OIL cooled only turbo's

As you said, Trust range is like that.

yes you get what you pay for.

Everyone was all happy as larry about the Slide Hiflows.

Now there are threads that pop up everywhere (then locked and deleted) about failures and warranty shit.

it's up to you.

But just like you, I can't see a better option for $1K when you get manifold turbo, gate etc etc.

all pretty much ready to go.

EDIT - why not search to see how many people have busted TRUST turbos.

Roy has had a TD06 on his RB20 for god knows how long now.

He's gone through 1 RB20 block but nothing wrong with the turbo.

He's car's seen more track days than most and makes over 250rwkw most of the time.

I'm not comparing HG turbos to Trust turbo's... just trying to show the OIL cooled only-phobia people that it's all ok.

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Nothing wrong with OIL cooled only turbo's

As you said, Trust range is like that.

yes you get what you pay for.

Everyone was all happy as larry about the Slide Hiflows.

Now there are threads that pop up everywhere (then locked and deleted) about failures and warranty shit.

it's up to you.

But just like you, I can't see a better option for $1K when you get manifold turbo, gate etc etc.

all pretty much ready to go.

yer see thats my thinking....... for 1000 itll be done and on and pushing around 270kws... if it lasts two years ill be happy! plus it has a one year warentee....

but yer dunnO!

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sounds good then

yeah my thinking for my slide turbo was $800 over 2 yrs is a good deal. got thru 1 yr / 6000kms with it now.

nothing against oil cooling only, just you will HaVe to make sure it cools down properly prior to shut down, with water+oil cooling I must admit I dont worry too much about it.... slow down for last km or so, hit driveway, switch off. with oil only Id be turning on my turbo timer, and that has been switched off since day one of owning the stagea.

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lol whats wrong wid trust??? not a small brand!

Nothing wrong at all....Just point out the fact their turbochargers are plain bearing and only oil cooled....And damn good items!!!!!!!

sounds good then

yeah my thinking for my slide turbo was $800 over 2 yrs is a good deal. got thru 1 yr / 6000kms with it now.

nothing against oil cooling only, just you will HaVe to make sure it cools down properly prior to shut down, with water+oil cooling I must admit I dont worry too much about it.... slow down for last km or so, hit driveway, switch off. with oil only Id be turning on my turbo timer, and that has been switched off since day one of owning the stagea.

f**kin spot on beavon!!!

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I disagree Tangles (Surprising hey..)

Since you take it easy on the "last km's or so", wether you have oil only or water and oil cooling makes no difference.

As an example, if you have your slide turbo on and drive off boosty for the last km or so and when you stop at your driveway, say your oil temp is 90 degrees.

same scenario in the oil only cooled turbo will show the same result.

and leting it idle at the driveway for 2 minutes or whatnot will only heat it back up as there is no air going past the factory shitty oil cooler on the oil filter adapter thingy.

if you thrash the bajebus right up to your driveway, you'd cool either turbo down.

if you turned it off straight away, it would seize up either turbo.

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disagreement is good, mmmm'k?

my slide hasnt seized up yet :)

nah I dont drive like I stole it.

with an oil only cooled turbo a little flashing light would be in my brain (get out!!) saying "cool down first". dont get that with the water/oil cooled turbo - mainly "kill them all" but thats for my psychologist to work on.

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a little flashing light in your brain? like a robot?

You're a robot?

like ASIMO?

Cool.

Dance Tangles, Dance!!

I still don't believe that it would need any more cool down than any other turbo.

Cooling down essentially means letting the car run so that the oil pump still does it's job to push oil through the engine and turbo.

if you've been cruising along before parking, it requires no more cooling than you woudl for the other turbo's..

ie, park, handbrake up, seatbelt off, get out of door, pull pants up, pull undies out of crack, scratch left nut, adjust position of knob, windows up, turn off car.

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I still don't believe that it would need any more cool down than any other turbo.

Cooling down essentially means letting the car run so that the oil pump still does it's job to push oil through the engine and turbo.

if you've been cruising along before parking, it requires no more cooling than you woudl for the other turbo's..

ie, park, handbrake up, seatbelt off, get out of door, pull pants up, pull undies out of crack, scratch left nut, adjust position of knob, windows up, turn off car.

lol.... nice :laughing-smiley-014:

just asked my tuner and he said oil cooled isnt a negative.. hes looking into them.. ill see what he comes back with

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