Targa Tas Prepping R32 Gtr

[paulR32gtr]

Well it is all happening!

We only have 6 odd weeks to have the car reliable, guaranteed we are coming back with a blown this or that... but also the thirst for a somewhat competitive car in 2009 - you gotta start somewhere!

Duncan - our only legal option is to run the ceramic turbos is it not - or have them rebuilt with a steel wheel CHRA? Someone mentioned earlier that to swap to N1 we would need to be entering the car as N1 spec and actually have an.. N1.

Can't wait to get over there!

[Marlin]

You DON'T actually have to have a genuine N1, just enter it as such. But, you need to have all genuine N1 bits on there, such as factory oil cooler, N1 spec turbos etc. I reckon it'd be worth the exercise just to have that little bit of extra reliability up your sleeve.

Keep in mind that technically you cannot run a GTR with so much as an oil cooler if it wasn't on their from factory. Hence nearly everyone runs as N1 spec.

Btw, great to have another Skyline there

Edited February 22, 2008 by Marlin

[sav man]

Yep if you enter it as a N1, you need the N1 lagmaster turbos, and the Rest of the N1 stuff. The N1 oil cooler is a good thing though, it's huuuuuge.

and join our team!

[Marlin]

The N1 oil cooler is a good thing though, it's huuuuuge.

and join our team!

And eggspensive (well if it's anything like a 34 one it is.

And yes! Join our team!

[Duncan]

You actually have to have a genuine N1, just enter it as such. But, you need to have all genuine N1 bits on there, such as factory oil cooler, N1 spec turbos etc. I reckon it'd be worth the exercise just to have that little bit of extra reliability up your sleeve.

Keep in mind that technically you cannot run a GTR with so much as an oil cooler if it wasn't on their from factory. Hence nearly everyone runs as N1 spec.

Btw, great to have another Skyline there

lol you forgot a very important word 2nd in that sentance "dont"

but you are right about the trade off. the n1 turbos are too big, but 16" wheels are too small. lots of compromises.

[Marlin]

hahaha, didn't I ever! I'll edit that right now

[sav man]

very good Skyline turn out this year. 11 GT-R's and 4 Gts-t's entered at this stage.

[paulR32gtr]

Is an N1 oil pump required?

I am thinking the higher flow is more likely to cause oil issues without any internal engine mods to oiling for the head. We are trying to avoid cracking open the motor at this stage.

Also just trying to get our hands on some N1 "lagmasters" - one guy looks to have the R34 N1 dumps as well which could be a good bonus - you guys know of any issues fitting these in the 32 with the standard front pipe positions?

Oh and if anyone has an N1 oil cooler, power steering cooler or water pump we are in the market BIG TIME!

Edited February 24, 2008 by paulR32gtr

[Duncan]

well strictly yes, if you run in n1 spec you can't pick which bits you want. but the n1 pump flows less not more than a standard pump. also targa seemed to be easier on the motor than circuit racing you are not doing as much sustained high rev stuff (yes on the big straights, but there is a lot of mid rev tight stuff too)

re the 34 n1 dumps, they of course are also not legal on a 32. I am pretty confident they would bolt straight on though, only difference would be the rear dump has an exhaust gas temp sensor fitting.

i had to get my 32 n1 turbs from nissan on order from japan. no-one else was mad enough to want a set of them I guess the 34 n1s are a much better unit (ball bearing v 270o thrust bearing) but not legal

having said all that, I didn't notice any eligibility scruitineering last year at all. Another GTR we went through with clearly had aftermarket injectors for example.

[paulR32gtr]

Sweet re: oil pump - Steve already bought one! I do now remember hearing that they flowed less - thanks.

How much were the R32 N1's and how long did they take to get here? Edit: spose i should just get on the phone to nissan eh!!

Edited February 24, 2008 by paulR32gtr

[sav man]

They only have a good look at the cars if you get finish somewhere (outright/class/catagory)

[paulR32gtr]

We are looking at the G4 Racing AP copies - just hoping they will fit under 17x8 / 17x9 wheels

Ben you mentioned being able to run 18x9 under the option rule - what does this entail? Couldn't find it mentioned in the regs.

[sav man]

Stu Benson (tech reg guy for Targa) has told me that cars are alowed to run wheels that were option parts. The R32 GT-R had 17x9, and 18x9 wheels as an option from the factory. R33's had 18x10 optional wheels from the factory. The old CAMS regs had the option rule in there somewhere. Best bet is to email Stu.

Just found the regs. 301.9 http://www.targa.com.au/Competitors/Regula...icalGeneral.pdf dosn't say anything about wheels though?

[Duncan]

we and steve from just jap both ran the G4s last year with no problems

[gtrracer]

Hi

Re the options on wheels, I read the new regs and it does not say you can have option wheels so I am not sure you can.

The other thing to remember is that if you run an option you need to be able to produce proof as per the regs.

That proof must be in one of the formats defined in the regs.

Just my thoughts, happy to see the rules that say otherwise.

BT

[t01-100]

wheel options were removed in error from the regs, but will be re-included via bulletin shortly. sorry for the confusion.

paul - further to your email, lee also took the turbos off my old GTR and replaced them with something else. i doubt he'd be after big dollars for them. they made 260kw on 16psi and 95ron with a 3.5" exhaust with a very very mild tune.

[t01-100]

further to BT's comments, in my experience the only wheel options I've discovered for R32 GTR are 17x8, 17x9 and 18x9. R33 and R34 GTR had alternate option sizes again.

[paulR32gtr]

Hey whats the deal with exhaust regs?

Had a chat with Ben @ Racepace and he mentioned we may be limited to a 3" exhaust maximum on the GTR? Ouch...

Stuart - those turbos were genuine N1's?

Edited February 27, 2008 by paulR32gtr

[Duncan]

lol you new kids don't know you are living.

back when I did targa it was 70mm exhaust, the regs only changed to 3" about 2 weeks ago

[paulR32gtr]

Woo hoo - 3" I feel better now Duncan thanks!

We are having serious trouble finding an R32 N1 oil cooler - I doubt there are many left in the world - anyone know how many rows they are?