Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Nee-san]

Is this a social experiment ?

[-FIGJAM-]

so what supplements do you lot take?

Im on:

multi vitamen

fish oil

testosterone

Ultimate Nutrition BCAA mix watermelon flavor

Ultimate Nutrition 100% whey protein vanilla creme

[Flynnn]

GhostRUN

Wheres the arms brah?

[GTR_JOEY]

Swiss multi vi

2 types of protein (casine slow release for night) (whey for quicker release straight after training)

BCAA's

L-Glutamine

Extreme carbs

currently trialing Krealkaline

was doing 'Jungle warefare' and 'Badass' as test boosters at one stage.. may get back on it

[GHOSTrun]

GhostRUN, Wheres the arms brah?

underneath my delts

[Trozzle]

underneath my delts

LOL SUCK IT IN BUDDY!!!

[GHOSTrun]

hahaha yeah, abs aren't quite as visible as they used to be

[Birds]

56k warning...

TL;DR: Each to their fucking own.

Well compared to who? What exactly are you goals, what do you look like? I've been following your posts for a while in this section, some of them I don't particularly agree on (never said anything), and I have yet to see a photo of your physique or training log to see how you train, so the only thing to go on was after 8years of training you're still benching ~100kg, which is not particularly great considering that level can be achieved by most with less than 12months of training, regardless of what their goals are, but of course dependant upon their trainer.

Compared to me? The average person? I don't know, I don't care. I think you'll find most people (read: ectomorphs who don't use roids) can't bench a set of TEN reps @ 100kg within their first 12 months of training...you're certainly nowhere near it. Now consider that someone's goals may be to compliment the sport that they play with some supplementary strength, and that being a power lifter has no place within a game of AFL or tennis. I'm kind of tall, with dark brown piercing eyes, full lips and dark brown hair, which takes on a chocolate complexion in the summer light. I have somewhat olive skin, and I firmly believe in little to no hair below the neck.

Read it again, plenty of 10-20 rep sets.

Not really, most are low rep, but anyway, that's not the point. The point is, you're doing what you're doing and I'm not telling you that it's the wrong way to go about it or that you haven't learnt a thing in the time you've been training.

What level, please go into detail?

In a recent post by you weren't you asking about weight loss and best way to maintain an AFL-type physique IIRC? You should certainly know this after 8 years of messing around in the gym. Like I said above I've been following some of your posts and just found it strange some of the stuff you and talk about considering you have spent so many years training.

I think you have me confused for someone else, I already have an AFL-esque physique that I'm very happy with, and as an ectomorph I've never had to ask how to lose weight...to the contrary, I've shared my workout with ~8 people on here, who asked for it, and have either adopted it or modified it to suit themselves in some way. Key word being "asked", no bible bashing here.

I can guarantee you are nowhere near your limits, there is ALWAYS room to improve. You just have to want it, and have to train for it.

Where did I say I was at my limits? It's somewhat hypocritical and ignorant to profess to know what someone else's limits are, when you accuse them of not knowing their own limits. There are limits beyond the physical, too, son. I'm an insomniac, I rarely get a good sleep. That's not an excuse, but a good example of you not knowing a limitation to my training. I also don't have the dedication to diet or supplement myself properly and help push through plateaus...mental limits, these are...I'd rather eat whatever the f**k I want than putting myself on a nazi diet. This shit ain't my life, it just helps me get through life. That's nice for PTC, but I don't care. They're achieving their goals, good for them. This has NOTHING to do with my goals, at all. I don't look like a normal person, I'm stronger, better looking, and faster. They were my goals, I got there.

Let's settle this, Birds post up some physique shots. If you're not truly happy with where you are then my comment about learnt nothing in 8 years is quite valid...

I'm 99.9% happy, there's always something that I could change, and I do. Everyone has this. The mirror does that to you and it's just a fact of human psychology, but overall I'm quite content where I am. I had goals a long time ago and I reached them. Now I'm enjoying them. Does that fuck with your perfect white world of the forever goal-chasing power lifter? I don't know why posting physique shots to get your opinion on them is supposed to reflect my happyness with where I am? I'm into girls, not you. I'd rather listen to the hot slut who walked up to me in a club, said nice body and started macking on with me with no effort from me...that shit is much better than flexing my e-wang. Oops...

This is Jack, 20yo and less than 18 months TOTAL training time.

170kg bench press

245kg squat

250kg deadlift

When he started training he wieghed 110kg, he now weighs 150kg. body BUILDING.

He's built more muscle in the space of 18months than this whole forum put together, wasn't from doing cable flys....

He's had a 36% body weight gain...and this is a better increase than anyone on this forum? Me going from 63kg at the same height to 89kg with the same BF, then cutting down to 83kg just pales in comparison to this, apparently. Then his one rep max is 20kg more than he weighs? Okay, I pushed out TEN (count 'em) reps of 100kg at around 82kg body weight. I don't do diets, I don't supplement...I'm not even trying to be the strongest cunt there is. And while we're here...how many 20 year old behemoths weighing 110kg are representative of what the average person can achieve at the gym? Is this example a joke? By this logic, GHOSTrun, if you're not benching 170kg within 18 months then you're doing it all wrong and have learnt nothing.

And really, good for you Jack...

...but why you keep bringing other people into this thread as a tool of comparison, as if I give a shit, is beyond me. I told you I'm not competing in lifting or bodybuilding. I go to the gym to look good, to improve fitness and strength within my sports, and to be a little better off than the average punter in a street scuffle. Take your lifting competitions, bodybuilding, other people, whatever...elsewhere. I don't care.

No but I can tell from the training logs. Muscle lifts weight, not much weight being lifted on here, sorry.

Training logs? There are 7 build threads including yours and they are all along the lines of "I'm skinny and don't want to be". This is indicative of the gyming population on here, how?

Another example, Lee priest fat (off season), and in season (cut) comparison

Cool, he looks like shit to me. I look like shit to him. How many women would want to sleep with that? This might make your head and the heads of several communities explode, but there is such a thing as too much muscle and being too shredded, in the minds of most people. I don't dig it, neither do most females. If it makes him and other bodybuilders happy, then so be it. I think it's a very distorted version of what they originally set out to do when they joined a gym, and I'm quite familiar with how the bodybuilder psychology works, being built upon an obsession, but if it makes them happy and to them it looks good...then so be it. Just don't come to me telling me I'm doing it wrong or I don't know what I'm doing when I've had much longer to consider this than you.

Finally,

[GTR_JOEY]

Birds it's come to my attention that u have way too much free time

[Birds]

Birds it's come to my attention that u have way too much free time

It took you this long to realise? The best part is getting paid for it...

That's all I'm saying on that topic, questions have been answered, I'm done with this shit.

[vspecIInur]

The birdasaurus is hungry nom nom nom

Anyways I jsut stick to the basics in terms of supplements.

I use a multivitamin that has natural test boosting (blackmores performance vitamin).

I use BCAA's - xtend brand

I use protein post workout with some super high GI sugar + plus shot of insulin

I use jack3d pre-workout

I take ethical nutrients fish oil tablets.

I take glucosamine

Before bed I have ZMA (zinc magnesium)

Still putting on the weight as the weeks go on Minimal fat gain (f**k yeh)

[GTR_JOEY]

What is the ZMA and glucosamine for? Like wat does it do?

[Trozzle]

I think the ZMA reduces muscle cramps or something post workout?

[Trozzle]

I think the ZMA reduces muscle cramps or something post workout?

[Trozzle]

underneath my delts

Sorry man, but for shits and giggles I had to take a picture of myself in the same pose you took this one......my f**king god does it make me look like shit. I'll give you one thing, you've got much bigger delts than me (most people do sigh...) though otherwise I think I just found another reason to laugh really hard at the last page or so of this thread. Even though I know you've said some kind words in my thread, I gotta say....delts are about ALL you have on me

Also I have the guts to NOT crop off my ugly mug

[GTR_JOEY]

Also how did u get the "c" word in without it been spell checked to flaming mongrel lol

Personally I think u both need to put on some weight.. Now there's an opinion!!!! But opinions are like ass holes, everyone has one heh heh

Edited November 28, 2011 by GTR_JOEY

[Trozzle]

Also how did u get the "c" word in without it been spell checked to flaming mongrel lol

Personally I think u both need to put on some weight.. Now there's an opinion!!!! But opinions are like ass holes, everyone has one heh heh

"you both" being myself and him?

I agree. lol.

I don't get it though, I don't have any problems saying cunt, fuck, turkey, or any of those allegedly "filtered" words

[GTR_JOEY]

the sphincter of the universe?.... Haha

Yea I'm talking bout both of yas lol In good time

Its Takin me 21 months to stack on the last 13kg

What's the desired weight for urself and ghostrun?

[GTR_JOEY]

Sphincter of the universe????

I tried to say the T word lol

[Trozzle]

Well for the rest of summer I'm not TRYING to put on weight per se, only build a bit more around certain areas. Once shit cools down/the season is coming to an end, I'm going to aim for 80kg+ by my birthday (June)