Gym And Supplement Discussion

[TTT]

buying creatine is a waste of money full stop.

What is it that you are hoping to get from creatine?

Why was it a supplement that you wanted to buy? as in what benefits will you see it having on your chosen exercises?

[White GTS-T]

Cheers. Well, up until recently I had a BMI of 17. I've been put on anti-depressants and I have started putting on weight, but it's all fat. I have very low testosterone, which my endocrinologist attributes to my wight being so low, which makes it hard to put on any muscle. I've also been told that I shouldn't be doing any high impact exercise, and I just thought creatine may help.

[25GTT]

White GTST - if you are referring to lexapro as your medication then you "should" be ok. a lot of the pre workout supplements such as NO Xplode to contain creatine aswell, however high doses of caffeine does not do well with lexapro, so please stay away from the pre workout supplements with creatine in them.

Edited May 19, 2012 by 25GTT

[White GTS-T]

Food for thought perhaps. I'd say the swimming I do would be considered a combination of mid (120-150 bpm) to high (150-180 bpm) intensity. I'm on paroxetine. Oh, and I don't eat red meat.

[TTT]

I don't get why BMI is still used.

Such a waste of time.

Anyway, back to your low test levels.

Are you suitable for TRT?

A friend of mine use to be about 80kg.

Was always obsessed with getting cut and lower fat percentage etc.

Months go by and no one hears from him.

Checks in to a forum we use to frequent and starts a "hey guys i've got an issue" thread.

posts a photo of his current self.

42kg skin and bones.

Anyway, months and months of trying to eat more, he sees a doc, his test levels are non existent.

Basically he broke himself.

Anyway, doc started him on some oral tablet to stabilise his hormones.

Not TRT but something.

Fast forward a year and he is 100kg and well in to powerlifting.

Important part is to see if you can get some meds.

[White GTS-T]

I was in a similar situation. I went into the endocrinologist's office expecting to be started on TRT but after he weighed me at 55kg he told me not to come back until I was at least 60kg. I'm nearly there now and my next appointment is in 4 weeks so I guess I'll just have to wait and see.

[TM7GTR]

How tall are you man? BMI of 17 at 55kg i'm assuming you're pretty tall. There's nothing wrong with supplementing creatine into your diet; it works for some people but not for others so the best advice anyone can give you is to try it for yourself

[White GTS-T]

179cm.

[Birds]

What are your goals Tim? That's the first place to start when giving you advice.

Are you trying to get faster at swimming? Trying to gain lean muscle? Just gain weight in general? Powerlift? Bodybuild?

[White GTS-T]

Basically i'm just trying to get my life sorted and get fit an healthy again. I obviously need to put on weight but i'm struggling to come to terms with the fat i've put on, which I attribute mostly to my meds. It would be nice to put on some extra muscle but without doing resistance training, which i have been advised against, and my very low T levels I guess it's just wishful thinking.

[R-SPEC]

body weight training if you cant use heavier plates

don't waste your time with sit ups. if you wanna hit your core/abs hard try hanging pike.

push ups, pull/chin ups, dips etc you'd be surprised at how many different workouts you can do using nothing but your body weight

you should also try different forms for every one of em, there are a million different ways you can do a push up...

[-FIGJAM-]

might be a silly question but hey ill ask it. Can you not take a testosterone booster???

obviously ask your doctor first if you dont know.

[TTT]

There are no useful over the counter products that boost test.

TRT is test replacement therapy.

His doc will give him stuff..

he just needs to gain a little weight first as he said

[Birds]

I know people who have naturally low testosterone and supplement it with prescription drugs like testogel - they have seen good results from this.

Situps are great, I owe my abs to them. But you have to do them properly (they are one of the most difficult exercises to do strictly) and have low enough body fat to see the results.

[White GTS-T]

I'm confident that I will be started on the TRT at my next appointment. We spoke about it at my last visit and he said If I was to start I would would be given the rub in gel. Unfortunately, the first place the weight gain was visible was around my mid section, so my abs are now less pronounced. But I know it's for the best.

[NickR33]

dude your 55kg... forget about seeing your abs and just get healthy/strong first... you almost sound like someone with an eating disorder... hours of plodding up and down a pool aren't going to help you put on muscle either... swimming is great for rehab but for getting stronger you need to work in some resistance training... not saying don't swim, as its great but mix it up a bit

seriously, your taller than me but only a couple of kg heavier than my wife... and she's super petite!

[Dani Boi]

179cm

55kg

coming to terms with fat put on

How are you fat with those stats

[TTT]

calm down guys.

this is not a topic that should be given advice on in this forum.

yelling GOMAD and sq, bench and DL don't fix these issues.. and yes, these are the only things in life that those lifts don't fix.

[NickR33]

nobody recommended any of those lifts... the only suggestion was some body weight stuff

but yeah... internet forums are never a good place to get your medical advice

a little off topic but here's something to discuss: should athletes be granted exemptions to use TRT if diagnosed with low testosterone by a doctor? considering the use of T is illegal in most sports...

[White GTS-T]

Along with seeing an Endocrinologist i'm also regularly seeing my GP, a Psychologist and a Dietitian. We're all working together to solve various issues I have, but it's only early days yet.