Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Dani Boi]

All this talk about burgers makin' me hunggaryryyy

Anyone cutting?

lol

[Trozzle]

Yeah I'm cutting, but haven't eaten Maccas in around 2 years, or KFC/doughnut goodness in about 1 year. No temptation here.

[jangles]

lol at 2000 calorie meal, must be unhealthy as f*k for you to eat it in one go.

~120g P, ~240g C, ~50g F

You do the math.

[jangles]

All this talk about burgers makin' me hunggaryryyy

Anyone cutting?

lol

I'm cutting, had KFC on Sunday.

Cream filled donut yesterday.

[Birds]

3 big macs are well short of 2000 calories, its 1479 calories

I've had 3 double quarters and chips, thats 3011 calories......and a diet coke lol

I've actually had that a few times

lol just order pounders. They come in see through wrapping (read: dripping with grease). Had to stop half way through one for a toilet break.

On a serious note, I know fk all about diet and nutrition...is it actually good to use a lot of fast food as a source of workout fuel and/or muscle building (assuming you don't care about body fat)? Everything I've heard says to eat fast food in moderation, but I do acknowledge this is probably for the average person who doesn't exercise. I know it's got quite a bit of protein and carbs/energy in it, but do the saturated fats pose a bit of a threat to arteries etc? Somebody school me

Related: lastnight had a fair wad of unhealthy food (more than normal) and snacked on chocolate today. Blasted through my gym session in record time and pushed out more reps on bench than normal - extra calories helping out, I assume?

[Birds]

In other news, I must retract the statement about my gym. They are putting in 3 power racks, so we now have 5

[Dani Boi]

~120g P, ~240g C, ~50g F

You do the math.

you're 110 cals short champ, and that doesn't tell me anything about what you ate...there just numbers.

[jangles]

In other news, I must retract the statement about my gym. They are putting in 3 power racks, so we now have 5

If only they would do that at my gym! I've even just recently got told to not bang the weights as loud, whilst doing deads.

whole grains and unprocessed foods are better for you apparently. But If youre hitting your macro targets, getting the results you want, doesn't matter.

[jangles]

you're 110 cals short champ, and that doesn't tell me anything about what you ate...there just numbers.

These ~ symbols are approximates.

You never asked what I ate, you just assumed it would be unhealthy.

[some_cs_student]

lol just order pounders. They come in see through wrapping (read: dripping with grease). Had to stop half way through one for a toilet break.

On a serious note, I know fk all about diet and nutrition...is it actually good to use a lot of fast food as a source of workout fuel and/or muscle building (assuming you don't care about body fat)? Everything I've heard says to eat fast food in moderation, but I do acknowledge this is probably for the average person who doesn't exercise. I know it's got quite a bit of protein and carbs/energy in it, but do the saturated fats pose a bit of a threat to arteries etc? Somebody school me

Related: lastnight had a fair wad of unhealthy food (more than normal) and snacked on chocolate today. Blasted through my gym session in record time and pushed out more reps on bench than normal - extra calories helping out, I assume?

I don't see the saturated fat from eating some fast food as a risk. It would depend on your overall diet. I generally don't accept the concept of "high cholestrol", I think the ratio of HPL to LDL is more interesting as per the discussions in the Smarter Science of Slim / Johnathon Bailor and others. Here's one random one about saturated fat http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2002/08/17/saturated-fat1.aspx

Also I'd be looking at your pre-workout (and maybe post-workout) nutrition if you want to improve your gym sessions.

Everything I've heard says to eat fast food in moderation, but I do acknowledge this is probably for the average person who doesn't exercise.

If the person cares about their health/appearance they probably don't want to eat large amounts of the wrong kind of fast food(s) . And irrelevant of the exercise, if they eat the wrong kind of foods it's going to end up in weight gain.

If your naturally skinny then I don't see it as a big deal to eat fast food, you can obviously do better with your own cooking / non-fast food.

[NickR33]

If your near Highett in Melb Burger Boss are running a burger challenge at the moment... its got 6 patties I think, only one person has finished it so far

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Burger-Boss-Melbourne/374200099257396?fref=ts

eating fast food is no different to eating out at a nice restuarant when it comes to your health... a really interesting look at fast food by Penn and Teller and in their Bullshit series

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8av4unUxeE

that said if you have a gut and titties you should put the burger down fatty! lol

[TM7GTR]

hehe i'm cutting, but I still eat a cheeky burger or two every now and then... It doesn't really matter for me. Calories in vs calories out is more important to think about for losing weight than a high protein/low-carb diet only.

It would seem most people think they can eat as much protein and healthy fats as they want when cutting (when hungry) as long as they don't eat any carb sources.

[jangles]

hehe i'm cutting, but I still eat a cheeky burger or two every now and then... It doesn't really matter for me. Calories in vs calories out is more important to think about for losing weight than a high protein/low-carb diet only.

It would seem most people think they can eat as much protein and healthy fats as they want when cutting (when hungry) as long as they don't eat any carb sources.

Yeah it's a joke what a lot of people are led to believe! The only way to lose fat is cal in vs cal out.

Correct nutrition will aid in maintaining strength and muscle mass whilst in a deficit though

[Trozzle]

I think that while "fast food" isn't bad per se, its nastiness lies in calorie to serving size ratio. You're getting a whole heap of shit in such a small package that most of the time is far from filling.

[markos]

Calories out v calories in is also flawed

Say you need 2000 calories a day to cut

If you were to eat 2000 calories worth of Tim Tams right before bed, you would end up skinny fat, all your muscle would be gone from being in negative nitrogen blance for 23 hours a day and all those Tim Tam calories will be stored as fat

Just sayin

[TM7GTR]

Calories out v calories in is also flawed

Say you need 2000 calories a day to cut

If you were to eat 2000 calories worth of Tim Tams right before bed, you would end up skinny fat, all your muscle would be gone from being in negative nitrogen blance for 23 hours a day and all those Tim Tam calories will be stored as fat

Just sayin

That's why I said cals in vs out is more important than a diet that is high protein low carb only.

As in, a combination of the both will produce the greatest results (should have worded it better).

Depleting carbs only, just cuts down your water and glucogen stores, so this sort of diet leads to quick weight gain once you switch back to a balanced diet (hence "carbing up" making the body appear fuller).

[markos]

I agree, too many cut carbs way to far back

[Birds]

Need to learn how to stealth photo, would have had a great example of how not to deadlift...

Kid standing with his legs real close together; feet pointed IN on 45 degrees, like making a triangle; knees locked out completely straight; bending his body over in a perfect U shape...to pick up 70kg 3 or 4 times...and when he did, his body twisted and turned all over the place. It was worst deadlift I've ever seen, period. His mate comes up to him and complains about his own buggered back with a dislodged disc or something...

[jangles]

should of gave them some advice! Some just don't have any idea. Then again, a lot think they know all.

[Birds]

Fuck I wanted to...probably should have. I can never bring myself to give other people advice at the gym though, cause I know how annoying it is when someone is trying to tell you how you should be doing things. They might not have minded being total noobs.