Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Birds]

just leave a rep in the tank... going to failure okay with the smaller iso movements but will really drain you on the big compound stuff

What about your last set of a major compound?

[NickR33]

all depends on what your doing the next session and how well you recover... if your body can take it and your not too tired the next day (or the next training session) then go for it... but if you have a crap session because you ruined yourself yesterday it becomes pointless... consistency is more important

I don't like failing on the big three... but that's because I compete so I don't want to practice failing... I've only ever missed one squat and that was because the spotter grabbed me as I was getting bent over... I've missed a couple of deadlifts mainly due to losing my grip... I've missed a bunch of bench presses because I suck at it lol

going to failure on dumbbell exercises, pressing, rowing, curling etc is fine... as long as your form isn't too bad (your going to cheat a bit)

[No Crust Racing]

For some reason I can't upload pics, the attach button on the flash enabled and basic uploader is busted (rebooted, cleared cache etc etc).

Anyway, finished rack last night (left band pegs and push up handles off as not needed) and I don't think it was intended to be a one man job lol

Tried dip handles and chin up bar, head just clears roof on chin up bar, dip handles seem sturdy enough but having a bar on the pegs gets in the way.

I'm now thinking about the logistics of using it (I was hoping it would save me some time) but now I'm thinking it might cost me time to move from squat to bench etc etc.

I'll have a play tonight.

EDIT: Actually it appears to have attached anyway...

Edited May 7, 2013 by ActionDan

[jangles]

all depends on what your doing the next session and how well you recover... if your body can take it and your not too tired the next day (or the next training session) then go for it... but if you have a crap session because you ruined yourself yesterday it becomes pointless... consistency is more important

I don't like failing on the big three... but that's because I compete so I don't want to practice failing... I've only ever missed one squat and that was because the spotter grabbed me as I was getting bent over... I've missed a couple of deadlifts mainly due to losing my grip... I've missed a bunch of bench presses because I suck at it lol

going to failure on dumbbell exercises, pressing, rowing, curling etc is fine... as long as your form isn't too bad (your going to cheat a bit)

Yep.

If I feel I could get one more rep out I stop. If I feel i could get 2-3 out, I'll do another.

[Trozzle]

If I feel I could get 1 more rep out, I'll push out at least another 2

[-FIGJAM-]

^^ Big kent

[jangles]

If I feel I could get 1 more rep out, I'll push out at least another 2

Your mind must be weaker than your body until you trigger that then.

[SRS13]

Dan - that looks pretty good for a home set-up. Good buy!

[Mitcho_7]

I reckon you are going to regret going standard bar in the long run once you start lifting a bit heavier.

When i bought my home gym setup i was looking to save money etc, but a barbell is something you dont wanna skimp on regardless of if you have to buy new weights for it and stuff...

Edited May 8, 2013 by Mitcho_7

[Birds]

Just buy Olympic size weights...you can still hang them off a standard bar lol*

*I do not recommend this

[Birds]

^Actually used to do that for shoulder press woth 2.5kg olympic plates when I couldn't find any standard sized 2.5kg plates.

[bozodos]

had to skip leg day today, hating myself right now, and thinking of the squats that could have been

[No Crust Racing]

Had my first session with the rack last night, it's different, added some weight to squats, bench, RDL and row, nothing much just an extra kg or two here and there as that's how the plate config came out.

Got my pin locations sorted and worked out my positioning for movements, the actual bench etc. The bench takes some getting used to and requires more horizontal stability from me/my legs while benching. Made more obvious by the longer bar too.

A few things I noticed. As I've been trying to move away from curling like a bro, I've been really keen to get the chin up bar and did chin ups (or whatever they are called with an underhand shoulder width grip - pull ups?) and didn't find that I felt like my biceps got much out of it certainly not as much pump after exercising, maybe at the top of the motion with some explicit contraction but otherwise not much and it's mostly in the upper lats I feel it today.

Also, used the dip bars instead of doing weighted bench (spa) dips and didn't feel like my triceps got much out of that either, to be fair my bench dips were sets of 30 because I could only fit 11-12kg in my pockets lol and the actual dips were just 3 sets of 8 but I just expected more burn on the triceps and if anything felt it more across the shoulder girdle, I think I need a belt for chin ups and dips to get some weight in there asap.

Am I wasting time doing chin ups and dips if my main goal there is to try and get some decent bi's and tri's during a compound motion? I want to stick to purely compound stuff where possible for efficiency and max calorific burn (with the exception of some dumbell lunges that I do for ankle stability improvement).

EDIT: Forgot to add, put some 1/2" wooden blocks under my heels for squats and that makes a big difference. I can get to parallel and a bit below without my feet splaying outwards and straining up the inside of my bad ankle. Feels good man.

Your mind must be weaker than your body until you trigger that then.

Then consider me weak, I can scream and go super sayain, but if I don't have the power for 1 more rep, I certainly don't have the power for 2 lol I admire your mental strength if you can do that, or you just have a skewed threshold of when you think you are out of juice... or maybe that's exactly your point!

Dan - that looks pretty good for a home set-up. Good buy!

Cheers dude, only cheap stuff but should be enough for me, but not according to Mitch...

I reckon you are going to regret going standard bar in the long run once you start lifting a bit heavier.

When i bought my home gym setup i was looking to save money etc, but a barbell is something you dont wanna skimp on regardless of if you have to buy new weights for it and stuff...

Why's that Mitch? (genuine question, no sarcasm) I already have 120kg or so of standard plates which will pretty much be enough for the goals I have as I've got no desire to powerlift. It cost me $50 to buy that bar and be able to use my rack right now with the weights I have knowing full well that chances are I'm not going to need more weights, and if I ever do I'll buy a few 10-20kg plates from the local Facebook group. It's important to keep in mind my goals are fairly low by comparison to some of the guys here.

Going Olympic would have cost me far more to get the same amount of weight and for what gain I'm not sure? Or are you meaning it will struggle to hold the weights? It didn't bend or flex last night during bench which at the moment is my heaviest motion, but at only 92-93kg for reps. My aim for squat and DL is to just get it matching the bench and then maybe a bit more and that would be it. I would say 120-140kg absolute max. I don't see this 400lb rated barbell being an issue, even if it can actually only hold 80% of that, it's still more than I'll ever need.

had to skip leg day today, hating myself right now, and thinking of the squats that could have been

Skipped one leg day? You should be ashamed of yourself, I'm pretty sure this is what you'd look like now.

Edited May 8, 2013 by ActionDan

[Trozzle]

Your mind must be weaker than your body until you trigger that then.

Or maybe my mind is stronger than anyone who DOESN'T attempt the second rep? I don't even understand what you're getting at, or why for that matter.

[TTT]

burn, pump..... curler for life y0!

a pump does not equal growth.

lactic burn does not equal growth.

Here is a 6 month experiment for you.

tomorrow, take out the tailors tape and measure your broceps relaxed and flexed.

Write it down in your brocep diary.

Also take a pic flexed

For the next 3 months, do dips and chins on the new rack you bought.

each session increasing either the reps or sets or weight used.

After 3 months, measure and photo again.

The next 3 months, go back to curling and spa dips

After those 3 months, measure and photo.

How often you do the exercises is up to you.. whatever program your doing.

I already know what the result is going to be but you need to do this to prove it to yourself obviously because you've got this stupid pump/burn shit burned in to your brain.

6 months.

you've got nothing to lose.

[No Crust Racing]

God I love how much of a flamin mongrel you are lol

Anyway, stop getting so caught up in semantics. The point I'm making is about the feel.

The more I read, the more I see that I won't get decent broceps without squatting and doing some variant of DL anyway so that's what my focus is right now. Never have I ever had squats at the start of a routine and any brocep work at the very end.

I don't need to measure, if there's a change I'll notice it.

EDIT: lol @ flamin mongrel, I guess it doesn't like the word cvnt.

Edited May 8, 2013 by ActionDan

[-FIGJAM-]

arnie loved the pump, felt like he was cumming

[No Crust Racing]

Plus I thought you'd be happy TTT, squats first and for more reps than anything else, not a single curl in sight, all compound movements.

There's just no pleasing some people!

I feel sorry for your partner, he/she must have a hard time living up to your standards ;p;

[Trozzle]

I f**king HATE muscle pump!!! My pull movements are failing due to extremely painful pump in my forearms well before the muscles I'm targeting begin to fatigue lol

[No Crust Racing]

I had a computer in my room when I was a teenager so my forearms are heavily trained...