Gym And Supplement Discussion

[TM7GTR]

The one and only question I would ask first is what is your goal mlr?

You seem to be wanting strength + weightloss looking at that workout layout, so why care about wanting to rest less than 2 min?

The next question, are you seeing progression in those heavy lifts? If yes, again I ask, why care if you're having to rest >2min to smash them out?


If you feel you wanna be doing "more" in your session, I suggest trying a different type of program for a few weeks to satisfy that craving of absolutely killing yourself. Maybe some sort of circuit training? Tough mudder (obstacle course) bodyweight style of training? Hypertrophy program (higher volume)

On the other hand, if you like moving heavy ass weight, and you're progressing with it, I wouldn't worry about resting a little bit longer.


Advice from a "pencil necked" PT

[The Bogan]

The one and only question I would ask first is what is your goal mlr?

You seem to be wanting strength + weightloss looking at that workout layout, so why care about wanting to rest less than 2 min?

The next question, are you seeing progression in those heavy lifts? If yes, again I ask, why care if you're having to rest >2min to smash them out?

If you feel you wanna be doing "more" in your session, I suggest trying a different type of program for a few weeks to satisfy that craving of absolutely killing yourself. Maybe some sort of circuit training? Tough mudder (obstacle course) bodyweight style of training? Hypertrophy program (higher volume)

On the other hand, if you like moving heavy ass weight, and you're progressing with it, I wouldn't worry about resting a little bit longer.

Advice from a "pencil necked" PT

No offence intended to you with the "pencil neck" statement, I've been told by previous PT that its stupid to try and lift heavy weights, they think a good weights workout involves lots of isolation exersizes, heaven forbid you wear unfashionable clothing or grunt during a heavy lift.

As for goals, nothing in particular, my cardio training is mandatory at work, the weight training is because I like the added strength, and I also enjoy the personal competition in getting that extra rep or the extra 2.5kg in the lift.

Cheers

[-FIGJAM-]

well as Tom said, if you just want to lift heavy arse weight and get strong, more rest is perfectly fine and perfectly normal.

I would recommend thinking about what you want to achieve at the gym. A great body with pecks and abbs, or solid mass even just fit and healthy.

[The Bogan]

I took the advice of taking the longer rest period between my 5 x 5 working sets, 3 minutes, I made all the lifts in my A workout so I can go up 2.5kg next time it comes around.

I was under the impression that any more than around 45 minutes of weights is to long, I may have to revise my thinking.

I now have to agree though that it seems the heavier I go the longer I need to rest.

I am not interested in lowering my body fat to the point were my abs are more defined, I like food and beer to much for that, I am happy to be around 20% bf with some fitness and some strength.

As for my cardio, I am going to try (read: do a dodgy) and drop the Tuesday and Thursday cardio morning sessions and swap them for Pilates and stretching, I am doing Pilates at lunch time on Tuesdays anyway so another Pilates session at Thursday lunch time with the stretching in the mornings should be cool, plus the work out my eyes get is a bonus.

I shall still be taking the WPI/Creatine/Dextrose Pre work out and WPI/Glutamine post work out, I've still got a heap of the stuff left anyway, and buying the stuff in 1kg batches is relatively cheap.

I was talking to the Doc at work today and he said he could take my bloods and have a look at my Test levels and everything else he could wrangle.

I love the benefits of my job.

[-FIGJAM-]

yeah, heavy training is different to the bodybuilding style.

5x5 is not uncommon to have 5-10 minute rest between sets (normally on max effort)

[The Bogan]

In other news I have got a new box of 8 chalk blocks coming.

I shall sacrifice a block and attempt to make my own liquid chalk for fun, following the guidelines in the thread below.

http://www.adventurerock.com/uncategorized/diy-liquid-chalk/

Apparently it sets up a good base for the dry chalk so it lasts longer, in theory you apply the liquid chalk at the start of the session and then you will need less dry chalk during.

That's the theory anyway.

It may also be a cheaper alternative for the people who's gyms are not dry chalk friendly and need liquid chalk (which is stupidly over priced for what it is).

[GTR_JOEY]

I took the advice of taking the longer rest period between my 5 x 5 working sets, 3 minutes, I made all the lifts in my A workout so I can go up 2.5kg next time it comes around.

I was under the impression that any more than around 45 minutes of weights is to long, I may have to revise my thinking.

I now have to agree though that it seems the heavier I go the longer I need to rest.

I am not interested in lowering my body fat to the point were my abs are more defined, I like food and beer to much for that, I am happy to be around 20% bf with some fitness and some strength.

As for my cardio, I am going to try (read: do a dodgy) and drop the Tuesday and Thursday cardio morning sessions and swap them for Pilates and stretching, I am doing Pilates at lunch time on Tuesdays anyway so another Pilates session at Thursday lunch time with the stretching in the mornings should be cool, plus the work out my eyes get is a bonus.

I shall still be taking the WPI/Creatine/Dextrose Pre work out and WPI/Glutamine post work out, I've still got a heap of the stuff left anyway, and buying the stuff in 1kg batches is relatively cheap.

I was talking to the Doc at work today and he said he could take my bloods and have a look at my Test levels and everything else he could wrangle.

I love the benefits of my job.

Tell me when your gonna be doing your Pilates and ill swing by for a perve

[The Bogan]

Tell me when your gonna be doing your Pilates and ill swing by for a perve

Every Tuesday and Thursday at lunch time, but the Tuesday one is the only one run by the PTI's.

Disclaimer: The talent may be a bit old for a young fella like you mate, not many under 30yrs, but most of it is around 20yrs younger than me, LOL.

And watch it if you are at the school going heavy on the rack with the platform and you dump the weights, the wooden floor under it is getting a bit iffy, and Cas will yell, I know this from experience.

Apparently the new gym they are building in your neck of the woods is going to be super sweet though, from the plans it fairly big with a dedicated weights area on a concrete floor.

[GTR_JOEY]

Ill be sure to take a day off to get over there and watch

Mate apparently that gym is going to be wild, cant wait for it all to be finished! You'll be over here too so im sure you will be taking full advantage of its benefits...

geeeez its a shit fight at the moment over here

[-FIGJAM-]

the carb debate has been settled

[Trozzle]

Assembled my power cage yesterday arvo, though unfortunately I've gotta wait until I have a second set of remotely strong hands available as I assembled it lying on its side and it hits the ceiling if I try standing it up where it is lol....gotta have someone help me carry it to the grass and stand it up there before carrying it back to where it'll sit.

[No Crust Racing]

lol rookie mistake, I assembled mine standing up in the room like you're supposed to.

You goose.

[Trozzle]

If assembling as per the instructions, it would have been tremendously difficult to assemble upright. Would need a second person for half of it just to take the weight of some parts up so you can slip the bolts through. Assembling it by myself was only really possible while it was lying down

[No Crust Racing]

Yours is heavier duty than mine, so I'd say the differences would be fairly major.

That said, how is it going to fit through a door? or did you assemble it outside and it's going in the garage or something?

Mine will have to be disassembled to be moved out of the gym room.

[Trozzle]

When it's up and in place this arvo I'll get some pics to show, but otherwise it's outside under cover where the BBQ is - no need to navigate any doors etc and should we decide in the future that it should be moved to the garage (if/when there's room in there lol), shouldn't be too heavy for a couple of people to carry around the side of the house and in through the roller doors

[No Crust Racing]

Have fun.

[Trozzle]

And we're set

[No Crust Racing]

Nice setup, I really should have bought that rack.

When this one breaks I'll do that I think.

"Nice rack Troy"

[Trozzle]

I'm pretty impressed with it already, which is good considering I haven't even used it yet lol

[No Crust Racing]

Me too, I'm only looking at pics