Gym And Supplement Discussion

[10 4]

Thanks for the info

[rev210]

Sounds about right to me, but out of the mentioned movements all I really focus on is the clean and press, I am trying to learn to snatch but I am finding it a very hard movement to pull off.

Hence the only real clarification from me would be in the clean and press, well the press part any way, with a mil press the bar is pressed up but slightly forward, with the clean and press the press ends with the bar straight up and the head pushed forward with the shoulders pushed back (head through the window)like a clean and jerk.

Well at least this is how I was taught to do it, I firmly believe this is the best full body movement there is, others may differ but it is my fav, it smashes me and makes me puff.

Yes I'm a fan boy, plus it scares most of the gym plebs away from the rack area where they do their concentration curls for the girls,LOL.

Clean then military press for reps is an old favorite of mine. It's good to know you can pick the weight up off the ground as opposed to from a shoulder height rack. I haven't done it seriouslyt since a single attempt earlier this year , 105kg for a few reps, vid on my training log.

The press is always head through the window style. Unless you are sitting on reclined bench or doing the 'bro' version behind the head.

[TTT]

OK I need some clarification here on some lifts and what their goddamn f**king correct names are lol...I'll detail what I believe some they are, so just correct me if I'm wrong.

Clean

Loaded bar on ground > explosively lift bar and shrug it real high then get under it in to the bottom of a front squat position, then front squat it up to standing

Catch position of a Clean

Power clean

Same as clean, but starting from knee height a lighter weight that you can pull higher in the second phase of the lift and then a slight dip of the knees to get under it and catch it higher and then stand up.

Power clean catch position

Clean and jerk

As per clean above > Slight bend in the knees then press up through the legs hard and push the weight over head and drop to a lunge stance of sorts to get under the bar, while keeping the bar where it is to finish with it above your head and arms locked > move back to standing position

Clean and press

Same as clean and jerk, but final stage is a strict military/front overhead press from shoulder height rather than dropping your body under the bar

yep. but towards the end before it was removed from the olympics it kind of became more of a standing incline bench press.

Am I right?

Mostly

Edited November 8, 2013 by TTT

[-FIGJAM-]

doesnt squatting hit all those muscles?

[-FIGJAM-]

but i do believe that you are correct

[Trozzle]

Cheers Tolga, that's cleared things up a bit

[bozodos]

I've found my OHP and squat have improved from actually doing them properly lol...

Still finding pushing exercises a lot harder than pulling ones though

[blah_blah]

Read this in today's age for a bit of a laugh

http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/life/blogs/stark-naked/grunty-gym-bloke-its-time-to-shut-the-hell-up-20131113-2xfrd.html

I really couldn't care less if others grunted at the gym

[L33SH]

Read this in today's age for a bit of a laugh

http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/life/blogs/stark-naked/grunty-gym-bloke-its-time-to-shut-the-hell-up-20131113-2xfrd.html

I really couldn't care less if others grunted at the gym

Someone I know recently got banned from our gym for being too loud and doing 1RM's

[Kenna802]

Love this comment.

Omg, seriously??? If you don't like your testosterone gym, go some where else. There are now heaps of womens only gyms available. It really sounds like you are in the wrong gym. There is no need for over reacting. Also if you can't or don't want to join a womens only gym, there is also a thing called earphones. Whack one of them on, listen to your favourite tunes, and stop whining.

CommenterPaulo Location Date and time November 13th 2013, 11:17 pm

Yes ,some people really are very controlling ,and manipulative of others freedoms of expression ,arent they?

CommenterKane Location Date and time November 14th 2013, 7:12 am

[r31slpr]

Nice haha meh nothing wrong with people that grunt.

Pretty sure some of them do it for attention though

[10 4]

I hate the super loud grunters lol.
Effort grunts are fine but lol at those every rep yelling and shit

Edited November 14, 2013 by 10 4

[Trozzle]

There's grunting, and then there's making a lot of noise. Unfortunately these are one and the same thing when it comes to the pansies walking on the treadmills.

[r31slpr]

Out of interest how long do you guys and gals spend in the gym per session?

[L33SH]

Out of interest how long do you guys and gals spend in the gym per session?

2 hours

[Kenna802]

Usually between 1 Hour and 1 hour 15

[r31slpr]

Ken whats the volume of your training like? I know leesh's is massive so two hours seems pretty quick haha

Edited November 16, 2013 by r31slpr

[Trozzle]

The whole day. Even to sleep.

[L33SH]

The whole day. Even to sleep.

Your gym is in a different part of your house

[Birds]

An hour, 4 times a week...volume similar to Leesh.