Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Birds]

Rather be paranoid and injury free than a hero!

[Trozzle]

Rather be paranoid and injury free than a hero!

This, though I'd even suggest being paranoid and injury free is the path to becoming a hero (albeit a slower one); whereas the "hero" alternative in your quote never actually makes it there thanks to f**king their shoulders/back/any other part of your body you can injure from being a retard.

[Birds]

Heroes get remembered, legends never die...

[Trozzle]

Heroes get remembered, legends never die...

They're just eventually skewed into questionable myths, then ridiculed into obscurity

[r31slpr]

I'm probably just being overly paranoid, but it has been bugging me that my pressing movements are really lagging behind the rows, squats, deadlift.

I'm in the same boat as you boz, I just figured it was because OHP uses smaller muscles?

Saw a chick doing chin ups today, was thoroughly impressed, she did more than most guys do.

Edited November 20, 2013 by r31slpr

[L33SH]

I'm in the same boat as you boz, I just figured it was because OHP uses smaller muscles?

Saw a chick doing chin ups today, was thoroughly impressed, she did more than most guys do.

was it me?

[r31slpr]

Not unless you were in gosnells haha

[L33SH]

Not unless you were in gosnells haha

mebe

[10 4]

perth meetup? xoxo

[TTT]

Boz.

Face pulls

Band Pull aparts

when it feels better, Bill Star overhead press routine

[rev210]

I'm not having pain or anything like that, I can just feel it more in the shoulders. I'll try some assisted pullups, stretching etc then go back to my bench pressing and OHP and see if there's any difference after a week.

I'm probably just being overly paranoid, but it has been bugging me that my pressing movements are really lagging behind the rows, squats, deadlift.

You won't feel pain first. That comes later. Weakness is the sign. If you go backwards thats always a problem anyway and should get attention (sleep / diet / injury)

Assisted pullups aren't part of the recovery. Stick to external rotations/ bands / cubans. Those sorts of movements.

Scapular wall slide is another test for thorasic mobility. How do go with that?

[bozodos]

I did the scapular wall slide, no movement in butt or back arch. I also did a version where you lie on the floor and do much the same thing, no problems. I did do the pencil test and they pointed inwards, so doing wall slides regularly are also meant to help with improving this.

Ok duly noted Tolga - I assume you mean 3x5 warmup sets then 3x3 work sets as outlined in this article http://startingstrength.com/articles/stronger_press_starr.pdf , I'll have to hunt around my gym to see if they have any resistance bands, or I'll buy one. I'll include the face pulls as well as the external rotations.

For the face pulls and Cuban press, should I do linear progression with it, or just keep it at a light weight?

Edited November 20, 2013 by bozodos

[rev210]

keep it light for now .

[L33SH]

Boz I got some bands off e bay, they were very cheap but are awesome, exactly the same as the ones I used at PTC

[TTT]

Bill starr OHP routine is

2-3 sets X 5 rep for warm up

6 sets X 3 reps using the same weight for all sets, increase when all 6 sets can be completed

1 set X 10 reps back off set at a lighter weight.

He also suggests very incline bench press an dips etc on a separate day.

But I reckon at least 4 weeks before you press.

do as Rev suggested with the band and cuban press stuff. and the face pulls and band pull aparts.

you'll come back stronger eventually.

Not like you have an OHP comp coming up in the next 80 years

[Trozzle]

I always ensure to do OHP+flat bench in one push session, then incline bench and dips the next.

[bozodos]

well I'd prefer to continue my PTC beginner routine if I can, which includes dips - I'd obviously give the bench a rest while working on shoulder mobility.

I'll give all that stuff a go though - I don't really have anything to lose here, and a lot to gain if it means I'm not snapping up my shoulders!

[Dani Boi]

What's the outline for the PPP routine again? Might give it a shot. Is the book anygood?

[Mitcho_7]

PPP can be bought off markos

[jangles]

What's the outline for the PPP routine again? Might give it a shot. Is the book anygood?

markos' email in below link

http://gpcaustralia.com/index.php/contact-us

It is a PDF file Markos emails to you.

His gym results speak for themselves, plus people on here have used it with good success.

It's not your normal bodybuilding.com 6 week transformation though.