Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Gts-t]

Thanks Joey,

re cardio I cannot run yet I am upto 4.3 kph, i have had a good surgeon and have ongoing physio every week. I'm slowly improving my diet which isn't perfect so I'm looking for some sort of protien shake to maximise my recovery from exercise and fill holes in my diet.

[GTR_JOEY]

Ahh I'm assuming your back is really not in a good shape if your maximum walking speed is 4.3kph. Hopefully soon enough you can get it up to around the 7kmh. When I did my cutting last year I was doing 35-40min of walking at around 7kmh with an incline of a crew degrees.. I'm no expert but I think that would be a good goal.

Like you said if you clean your diet up you will see the results come alot faster. 4kg in 2 months is still a respectable effort for someone in your situation.

I reckon if your diet is decent you won't need the protein powder. But if you really want to take it obviously dont get anything with bulk calories.

[No Crust Racing]

I'm not looking to start a debate on whether you can really train upper and lower chest, but what I can say is that I've recently noticed my lower chest is getting a bit big and round for my liking. This is despite having lost a bit of weight recently.

Time to incline the bench a bit or just lower weight and do more volume?

Edited December 29, 2013 by ActionDan

[jangles]

I'm not looking to start a debate on whether you can really train upper and lower chest, but what I can say is that I've recently noticed my lower chest is getting a bit big and round for my liking. This is despite having lost a bit of weight recently.

Time to incline the bench a bit or just lower weight and do more volume?

more volume is going to encourage muscle growth, i.e. size.

[Kenna802]

On a different note did anyone see that supps r us for burnt down? I saw it on the news the other day. Bloody shame ( I had just placed an order ) it was strange the owner made reference to the other supp stores suggesting they may of had some something to do with it.

[No Crust Racing]

Maybe that's why they've grown, as I switched back to sets of 8, but lighter.

I just thought maybe lighter again but more reps might tighten everything up.

I note that when tensed, my lower pec is very firm but my upper is quite soft by comparison.

[jangles]

Maybe that's why they've grown, as I switched back to sets of 8, but lighter.

I just thought maybe lighter again but more reps might tighten everything up.

I note that when tensed, my lower pec is very firm but my upper is quite soft by comparison.

Every time after I get a massage, my chest is always flatter/smaller in appearance because muscles are released. Maybe you can ball/roll them out a bit to get desired result?

[-FIGJAM-]

Got an issue with my shoulder at the moment. Haven't lifted anything for a few weeks die to it. Hurts to lays on it and cant throw a tennis ball without mass pain. Not sure if I should see a physio about it

[r31slpr]

Should probably see a physio if its been a couple weeks haha where abouts is the pain?

[No Crust Racing]

Dunno if ball rolling is the answer for me.

Ideally I just need the lower part of my pec to not be so full, could be fat too I guess?

And the upper to be a bit firmer.

For anyone doing incline, where are you feeling the burn?

I'd almost say I feel my flat bench more in the tri's than chest specifically. Though I've always got a pump in the tits afterwards. So was thinking incline to even it out if that actually works.

[-FIGJAM-]

Should probably see a physio if its been a couple weeks haha where abouts is the pain?

<br /><br />Practically the entire shoulder.... When I throw a ball its like my entire shoulder is clicking through the action and then sharp pain.

[Birds]

Dunno if ball rolling is the answer for me.

Ideally I just need the lower part of my pec to not be so full, could be fat too I guess?

And the upper to be a bit firmer.

For anyone doing incline, where are you feeling the burn?

I'd almost say I feel my flat bench more in the tri's than chest specifically. Though I've always got a pump in the tits afterwards. So was thinking incline to even it out if that actually works.

Watch the first video I posted a page back, Dan. Bench is more tris and shoulders than chest. It will work the chest, obviously, and the different positions will activate the chest more or less...but if you want to target it in a more involved way, get onto an isolation movement like flies.

That being said, most of the chest muscle naturally sits where you refer to as the "lower part", so a lot of people have this issue at some stage and, it's only really an issue because we feel like we are developing "boobs" instead of muscle. It is less obvious on those who have lower body fat %, because, not only does the upper part of the pec insertion have more definition, but the abdomen is slightly sunken (as opposed to flat or a gut), helping the so called "upper chest" to stand out a bit more (more forward of the body) and the "lower chest" to recess a bit (instead of sitting on top of fat). That's my opinion, anyway.

It is also less obvious on heavily built chests, because the muscle is then big enough that you start to see the "upper part" as more developed, when really it's just that the whole pec insertion is bigger. But alas, I am one of those who subscribe to the theory that you can't change the shape of the pecs per say, only build it bigger to give the illusion of having done that.

There are all kinds of muscles in the upper body that can mess with the appearance of the pecs just by contrast, too: traps, lats, biceps, delts. Even your posture plays a huge part; try standing in front of a mirror, side on, moving your delts back and forth to see how they stretch the muscle in a static state.

[No Crust Racing]

I was just reading this: http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/how-to-build-a-big-upper-and-lower-chest/

And I'm inclined to think it's likely just excess fat in my case.

I don't want my chest to be any bigger at all so I wont be doing flies (can't at home anyway).

What I need is to get some cardio back in my routine. Especially as I get older I want to tone and tighten more.

Or Euro training...

Dips might be contributing as well.

Edited December 30, 2013 by ActionDan

[Trozzle]

Ah, cardio....formally my worst enemy, though recently making up the majority of my time spent exercising lol

[No Crust Racing]

Yeah I'm lacking cardio badly.

Back and ankle does not any decent cardio easy.

[r31slpr]

Practically the entire shoulder.... When I throw a ball its like my entire shoulder is clicking through the action and then sharp pain.

I'm not an expert, but it sounds like an impingement of some sort, would definitely see a physio if it's been a few weeks of pain already.

Maybe someone (like rev) with more experience will chime in.

[bozodos]

[Gts-t]

Ahh I'm assuming your back is really not in a good shape if your maximum walking speed is 4.3kph. Hopefully soon enough you can get it up to around the 7kmh. When I did my cutting last year I was doing 35-40min of walking at around 7kmh with an incline of a crew degrees.. I'm no expert but I think that would be a good goal.

Like you said if you clean your diet up you will see the results come alot faster. 4kg in 2 months is still a respectable effort for someone in your situation.

I reckon if your diet is decent you won't need the protein powder. But if you really want to take it obviously dont get anything with bulk calories.

Thanks for the help Joey, hopefully I can fit in my bride seat again and get the old dunga out to a track day this year when the back get up to it.

[GTR_JOEY]

too easy mate, good luck

[MrClandestine]

how do i eat clen and tren hard? Anybody help?