P plater clocked @ 176km/h in an s14 200sx!! [MERGED]

[docile]

Ummmmm i'm not a full bottle on that situation but i think i know the car / persong your referring to are AND ARE YOU 100% SURE he was "dragging some guy"........

Or are you only listening to rumours and stories.

Why do i get the feeling that its the latter.

[Mr R32 M-Spec]

My friend had an accident on easter morning at castle hill in his near new S15 (black) he was turning onto showground rd from ol northern rd at castle hill at the traffic lights with the chemist there. (near the Piazza) he wasn't speeding, wasn't doing anything stupid, and a guy in a volvo pulled out in front of him turning accross showground into the macca's. my friend managed to turn and just clip the edge of his car instead of smacking him straight on, the airbags went off & he couldn't do much more, he ended going over the gutter down the stair way and hitting the small wall in macca's. (hit 2 people as he went down)

The news articles I read, both said things like "Young driver in high powered nissan sports coupe"

The funny thing is, they didn't mention anything about the FRIGGIN VOLVO DRIVER AND HIS CAR. it was one of those really expensive 5 Cylinder turbo volvo's. S70 or something, the driver was about 50 something, soon as he jumped out he started making out it was my mates fault, lucky I wasn't there or I would have been up on assault charges

[Sonic]

I would just like to add my .02 cents worth.

I've though long and hard about the state of driving in Australia and it seems that 99.9% of motorists see their license as a right not a privilege. That's problem No. 1

No. 2 is a misconception pushed by revenue raising govt.s It's not speed that kills. It's IRRESPONSIBLE SPEED, eg: A p-plater doing 170km/h in a school zone in a clapped-out Corolla, OR 110km/h in teeming wet in heavy traffic with 5m visibility. After a few years experience it might be ok to do 150km/h on a freeway in high-visibility in a 200SX/GT-R etc.

I can only trace the source of these 2 issues back to one thing.

ATTITUDE.

Attitude governs whether you floor it past the pedestrian crossing filled with kids or whether you choose to back off in miserable weather conditions or when you recognise you lack of experience in a certain situation.

A good driver isn't neccesarily someone who can control a car at 300km/h while drifting and eating a donut.

It's someone who knows when to give it a fang, when to back off and when to just git thar hell awf dem roads!

As for the media beating up stories. That's their job, all you can do is prove to them we aren't a bunch of knob-less tryhards and drive sensibly. Counter their fiction with fact. :burnout: :burnout:

[YBSLO4]

There is so many possiblities with this shit that can go wrong, particularly harming other people, but also yaself. Car could fail at high speed, an animal could run out, a car could pull out whatever it may be its silly and like everyone is saying if you do get caught we are the one's who cop it all back. I know cos my r33 is my first car and i only turned 18 and got my liscence in Feb and for a few weeks i got hastled. Its a load of crap... if anyone got to see the report on channel 7 regarding the drag's in dandynong and what have you , every one would have realised all teh cars on their that were caught and so on where actually all commodores and beten shit heaps, yet they single out us import owners as the instigaters of it all... the reason being as we set the visual scene for what people expect us to do, NOT what we actually do. Its the 'race' appearance of our cars that singles us out. Yes you'll get ya idiots in ya skylines and 200sx's etc but i know a hell of a lot more commodores that do some freaken rediculous things on the road and never get caught, and never get single out as 350kw supercharged 'missiles' that they can be also... I am jus sick of hearing all this crap that we start it all... i jus have one thing to say, i kno whow i drive and i know its sensible, i have never been caught or fined for anything and will keep it that way, but let me say if someone is the cause of an accident to myself or a close friend/family member due to their careless actions... i'll have the last laugh. Some people don't deserve the privelage of driving.

P.s. Having big power aswell does not mean you have to drive it to its limits either Trust me.

[SHUTO-BOY]

i never speed like that before

*nose grows longer*

[CerealKiller]

Originally posted by kabab

He obviously doesn't know how to talk his way out of big fines

i agree. I remember a few years ago, the heir of a multi-million dollar company (Faber-Castell) got done for 100 something plus in a 60 zone. He was on his P's at the time and it was in an M5 or some other 5 series BMW. He got off with something really minor (like a measily fine or 1 month restricted license) by saying that the car is capable and safe at those speeds...

[Duncan]

true, but he had to fight it through the courts, presumably with expensive lawyer support.

[holdens_r_better]

I wish i was livin in the USA you can do anythin to a car and its legal even drive your bathtup around or a jet engine pickup ssssssswwwwweeeeetttttt

[Silver-Arrowz]

Advertising guru John Singleton got off for the same reason. I think he was in his viper or something like that.

[Sonic]

Singo was in a Bentley, on the Hume, at 2am, doing 160km/h. He was let off for his brilliant driving record. Funny, if i was driving a 911 Turbo Porsche on the Hay Plain (long, flat, open straight) at 180km/h (even though the car can hit 300+) you reckon my clean driving record will save me?

There's no longer any excuse for extreme speeds on public streets. We have race tracks within reasonably close proximity to most major cities that host no speed limit days and off-street drags. Better than killing yourself or others.

By the way, i wonder if all these people who say "it doesn't matter, i'll just go into the country/deserted area to do my fanging" realise the shit they leave behind when they wipe out. Think about what your parents would feel like if they got a knock on the door at 2am with a cop standing there going, "Sorry Mr XXX, but your son Billy's just turned himself into a greasy smear on a pole".

[Ozzy]

Originally posted by <<>>

how do u kno its dangerous for other ppl?

was there other cars on the road? or infront of him? or in the way?

WTF r u smokin'? read what the stupid little prick was doing.......170 in a 60 zone. Others have stated in this thread that it wasn't in residential area, it was an industrial area.....just like Fyshwick Industrial area in Canberra where about 6 months ago a poor woman and her daughter were killed on a saturday arvo by some dopey prick in an MR2 (I think).....he lived.

U can't nor should you defend stupidity like that!

Get him and like minded twits off the road for life!!!!!!!

[docile]

Ok, this guy (and MANY others and A LOT OF YOU) was being stupid. Live and learn by your mistakes. How many of you have your speed limiters removed. WHY??? For those that say TRACK WORK, what about the REST OF YOU...

IMHO you get dangerous speeding and "safe speeding". Driving at 150kms down perth freeways at 2am is not really dangerous. Sure if you stuff up, you can pay the highest plenalty, but the roads are good, plenty of light, lots of space and you can see a long way around you.

Doing 60 kph in a school zone or residentual area is dangerous. Kids DONT look, when stuffing around.....

I got busted for doing the wrong thing (not as bad as 170kms but 130 in a 60 zone). Yet that area was out in the middle of nowhere, no one around (except for cops...) and at 2 am. Plenty of space, no side roads for passing vehicles etc.

Give the guy a break. I'm not saying what he did was right, but im sure a lot of people on here have done similiar stuid things.

[=KowP=]

Originally posted by unwritten law

i got done doing 280km/hr in a 60 zone in my VL commodore exec.

hahhahah you cant be serious man.. was there a misprint there? 280 is damn fast! we had a VN manual S pack. it was an executive.. not a chance i was going to take it over 220 even when it was new.

[b0neR]

If you had of read down you would have seen that it was someone messin around in his account mate.

[DAN00H]

having been done myself at 3am on a cold Wednesday morning, I can now say it's stupid. Sure, at the time while you are behind the wheel it's great, but we think how we would feel if we ended someones life because we speeding. I lost my licence for 3 months and it cost me $700+, worse still the cops watched my car like a hawk - it's not worth it, better to take it to the track.

[Redback]

after reading this i went to the cop shop. recently i have been having a lot of trouble with the police. they have been telling the people i know that they dont want me driving a car like that and when we get a chance we are going to "get rid of him".

i asked the copper on duty on the front counter whats going on. he replied by saying your car is a dangerous car to be on the raod esspecially with a P plate you have lettle or no driving expreiance with a car like that. i the asked him about the endless amounts of P plates driving around there parents new V8 commodors and shit. and that i cant even chuck a lap of the main street with out a p plater trying to stir me on just to see how well it goes by reving me leaving a burnouts and crap that i get the blamm for and you guys are having a go at me when my night really consists of finding somewere to park and chat to mates, talking for an hour then usually heading to a party or the go-karts then headding home.

last night was what pissed me off. i was in my mates Calais. he pulled a big locky in front of these mirror windows (it did look cool). smoke was blowing past the intersection, then a cop rocks up he instantly stops looks around and the cop pulls over a pretty banged up 180sx with a elderly guy in it that had only just rocked up seriously there were at least 4 -6 p platers on the smae intersection in VL's and othr commodes

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now if i get a cop telling me he's just doing he's job if i get pulled up for a simple breatho i am seriously going to tell him to get a life.

[Redback]

Originally posted by kabab

He obviously doesn't know how to talk his way out of big fines

I did here the best one the otehr day but involves are very easy going mum. set your phone to speedial your mum. if you get cought ring her.

get her to really have a go at you for being late home so loud that you cant even pay attention to the cop. finally the cop tells you to put the phone down then you tell him its you mum and you give him the phone. get you mum to really make it sound that shes goingot kill you when you get home. while the cop is trying to get a word in he realises how much shit your already in plus it will make you sound like a reall mumies boy.

in the end you might get off with everything in not maybe just talking on the phone while driving.

Rick

PS dont forget to tell ya mum to expect a pretty wierd call if your thinking of traveling in a hurry on she'll **** it all up for ya. dont forget though if you speeding exspect to get cought.

[DAN00H]

I hear ya RedBack - that happened plenty of times to me... just keep your cool and stay out of trouble, cops think they can bully people (esp young guys) cause they know SOME rules. mate go online and download a copy of their legislation- keep it in your car, if they are giving youa hard time for nothing, ask what section of the act (or subsection) they are referring to! (yes, these days I am a public servant so I also know how it works...)

[Redback]

where do i get this legislation you talk about?

at the moment ive been asking for cop number and full name. at least this way i can start keeping track of who pulls me over and how many times.

[DAN00H]

RedBack - here is the link http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/ it enables you to search any legislation / Act I'll see if I can find out what the specific Act is that the cops work to in your state.