zorb_rules Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Hey guys noticed the car playing up today.. anyhows it was idling like crap and had bout a litre of oil left (i filled it less than a month ago) Pulled apart all the cooler and intake piping and it is coated with oil...also when changing gears the car will spew white smoke out the back especially between 3 and 4th and also if I give it a rev while idling.. Sounds like seals on the turbo to me.. any other possibilities?? and if its seals whats a rebuild worth?? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211914-oil-through-intake-and-cooler-piping/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
R338OY Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 (edited) Sounds likely to be the turbo leaking oil. Check the oil breather lines on top of the rocker covers (or your catch can if you have one) to see if they're covered in oil too. I reckon a turbo reco wouldn't be that expensive if you remove and replace it yourself before taking it to a workshop. Try maybe GCG for rebuild kits. Your car spits white smoke? Odd, if the turbo isn't working properly (is it noisy?) i reckon you'd be getting black smoke as the ECU would send extra fuel trying to save the engine from misfiring. That happened to my mate's S15 when his intercooler piping had a massice hole- hardly any charge. Have you pulled everything away from the turbo (piping etc.) to see what condition it's in? Edited March 25, 2008 by R338OY Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211914-oil-through-intake-and-cooler-piping/#findComment-3744491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind_elk Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Could be oil vapour getting blown from the rocker covers into the intake air stream. A catch can (actually oil-air separator) will solve that problem. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211914-oil-through-intake-and-cooler-piping/#findComment-3744495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorb_rules Posted March 25, 2008 Author Share Posted March 25, 2008 taking off the breather hoses and everything all the cooler pipes have been removed and the air intake piping.. amongst all the piping is enough oil to cover my fingers not just a lil but a thick black film Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211914-oil-through-intake-and-cooler-piping/#findComment-3744505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R338OY Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Don't rule out the engine being rooted. Do a compression test if you're stumped. Motor might have had it. Con rod bearings could be rooted. Piston rings could be too. I guess you'd know if your engine is dying The work Hiace goes through 4 ltrs of oil in a couple weeks. Engine is on it's way out (400,000kms) and it has crappy compression and munches oil up. I'm sick of changing the oil! Did it today again Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211914-oil-through-intake-and-cooler-piping/#findComment-3744512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R338OY Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 taking off the breather hoses and everything all the cooler pipes have been removed and the air intake piping.. amongst all the piping is enough oil to cover my fingers not just a lil but a thick black film That can actually be normal. I don't have a catch can and when i ram my hand into the intake pipe, just where the breather hose goes into it, i come out with a layer all over my fingers. Is it HEAPS of oil, or just a film? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211914-oil-through-intake-and-cooler-piping/#findComment-3744520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorb_rules Posted March 25, 2008 Author Share Posted March 25, 2008 i wouldnt think the engine is gone...but hey you never know..ive just pulkled off stuff like the bov and even the piping from the turbo and it is all covered in oil.. does anyone know what the numbers should be on the stock turbo..thgis doesnt look stock Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211914-oil-through-intake-and-cooler-piping/#findComment-3744523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 clean the oil away drive around for 1 day check the pipes - if you see the same level of oil etc - seal is probably toast Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211914-oil-through-intake-and-cooler-piping/#findComment-3744534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R338OY Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 What car? TX5 turbo? Or Nissan? Factory Nissan turbos say Nissan on the compressor housing. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211914-oil-through-intake-and-cooler-piping/#findComment-3744537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorb_rules Posted March 25, 2008 Author Share Posted March 25, 2008 sorry this is the r33 whoopps yeah think its def turbo pulling it off now and there is a lot of oil in the mouth of it.. other spots I found plenty of oil and I mean enough to leave a pool are bov piping, cooler piping, throttle body and piping and they piping from the turbo.. I did find a split hose on the rocker cover and have replaced this now as I just happened to have a spare in the same size.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211914-oil-through-intake-and-cooler-piping/#findComment-3744541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R338OY Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Awesome, sounds like you've found the issue. Hope it goes well champ Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211914-oil-through-intake-and-cooler-piping/#findComment-3744561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorb_rules Posted March 25, 2008 Author Share Posted March 25, 2008 thanks guys.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211914-oil-through-intake-and-cooler-piping/#findComment-3744576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorb_rules Posted March 25, 2008 Author Share Posted March 25, 2008 also just thought id say I checked the turbo no real shaft play of anything so thats good at lkeast if worse comes to worst ill know its just oil seals..i've cleaned the pipes filled it with oil and put new plugs in it Ill drive it for the next few days and see how it goes.. is it worth while giving it a hard time or will everyday driving do the job? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211914-oil-through-intake-and-cooler-piping/#findComment-3744602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I still believe you are yet to find the issue If the motor has been damaged, you'll be getting a lot of blow-by and if all your plumbing is std that will all go into your intake, through the turbo and into the ic piping, etc. When i cracked a piston ring land, the car sounded normal to my ears, ran and came on power normally. But as soon as my mechanic heard it idle up his driveway he knew straight away. My only indications were a small puddle of oil under the pod filter, after a track session, and it was harder to start in the mornings. On the other hand it can be turbo seals. So do a compression test and that would confirm the fault. If all 6 cylinders have similar figures, than your turbo seals are stuffed, if one cylinder is really lower (20+psi) than the others then its engine rebuild time. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211914-oil-through-intake-and-cooler-piping/#findComment-3744924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispyFries Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 White smoke can mean blown head gasket, or coolant leaking into the combustion area/exhaust Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211914-oil-through-intake-and-cooler-piping/#findComment-3744989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorb_rules Posted March 25, 2008 Author Share Posted March 25, 2008 well ill check this and then take it to the mechanic for a compression test Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211914-oil-through-intake-and-cooler-piping/#findComment-3745186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABBAi Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Lol. My money is on the turbo seals. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211914-oil-through-intake-and-cooler-piping/#findComment-3745234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_r31 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 hey guys my turbo i think, makes a noise like this RRREEEEEEEEEE lol, under load, hi revs.. i think its standard 32 but i could be wrong, still ceramic an all.. um and 15psi gets put threw it every day.. goodnight turbo? fan belt stretchin under load? how long left till turbo dies? can i screw the engine if i keep it up? sorry to hijack... thanks chris Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211914-oil-through-intake-and-cooler-piping/#findComment-3745640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATGTS-R Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Easiest way to check is to fit a catch can after cleaning your intake pipes. If pipes still fill up with oil then its definately turbo. If can fills up instead then its engine related. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211914-oil-through-intake-and-cooler-piping/#findComment-3747654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorb_rules Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 ive just cleaned everything still blowing a lot of smoke.. ill take it to my mechanic tomoz if its turbo related Ill do the work myself.. if its anything else off to the mechanic.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/211914-oil-through-intake-and-cooler-piping/#findComment-3748064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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