Z32 Ecu Into R33 Gtst

[riceyr33]

just looking of a cheap way to make power and i came across a nistune ecu remaping.

i know dr drift does a remaping for the 33.

but also heard about the z32 ecu that is modded to suit the 33 just wanted to no if someone knows someone that has done it and if its worth chasing down.

[Adriano]

It certainly has been done, looking into today actually, looking for a cheap z32 ECU(if you come across one)

[paulr33]

yeah its been done before, not sure where to look though

it can also be done the other way, ie rb26 on vg30 engine

[InterCooL]

rb20det ecu's are easy to remap and they can be used in r33's. its been done in WA and QLD but no tuner in NSW wants to touch the idea

also there's a member here called toshi who can send remap your r33 much cheaper than you would think. search him up and his prices / options

[bumble_bee]

i rang hyperdrive in WA, hey told they dont have the setup/software etc. to remap a rb25det(R33)

he told me that the people that made up nis-tune, wer working on a way to remap rb25det...

and i asked him if i could uses a rb20det (r32) ecu, but he said that the harness/plugs are totally different..

becoz i've heard of people in the east doind this....

dont no about this??? so if someone can confirm this....

but u would also lose the inlet VCT...

so yeah...

but someone plz confirm this...

thnx

[Jmaac]

z32 ECU better suited than the Rb20det ECU i think, more spare outputs and VVT control

[Jmaac]

Yes R32 ecu will work with a remap, you wont have VVT control but

Someone on here is doing R33 d/boards installed cheap, $500 or something (Toshi?)

Edited April 28, 2008 by Jmaac

[InterCooL]

i rang hyperdrive in WA, hey told they dont have the setup/software etc. to remap a rb25det(R33)

he told me that the people that made up nis-tune, wer working on a way to remap rb25det...

and i asked him if i could uses a rb20det (r32) ecu, but he said that the harness/plugs are totally different..

becoz i've heard of people in the east doind this....

dont no about this??? so if someone can confirm this....

but u would also lose the inlet VCT...

so yeah...

but someone plz confirm this...

thnx

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Rb...ul-t176944.html

i've pulled out both rb20 and 25 ecu's. they look like they are a plug in matter. but will need a tune to run...

[Mr Jollwah]

I've been looking into this for a while.

Heres an overview.

All this will still probably cost less than the PFC option :laughing-smiley-014:

[W0rp3D]

maybe i missed something but why not just use an r33 ecu, i emailed dr drift a while back and he didnt mention not being able to use my r33 ecu, is there any other reason that i have missed?

[Mr Jollwah]

Yeah the r33 is a bit of a pain, this is apparently due to nissan changing to hitachi H8 chip.

You need a daughter board to use an emulator to enable you to make changes real time and these are unfortunately expensive.

There are guys out there that do R33 tuning but they would have an ecu with daughterboard installed to do the tune and the burn that data onto a H8

chip and put that into a 64 pin socket in your ecu.

So yes it's possible to "chip" R33 ecu's but it ain't cheap.

[Mr Jollwah]

I've been looking into this for a while.

Heres an overview.

All this will still probably cost less than the PFC option :laughing-smiley-014:

Maybe not that cheap @ approx $2000.

[W0rp3D]

Yeah the r33 is a bit of a pain, this is apparently due to nissan changing to hitachi H8 chip.

You need a daughter board to use an emulator to enable you to make changes real time and these are unfortunately expensive.

There are guys out there that do R33 tuning but they would have an ecu with daughterboard installed to do the tune and the burn that data onto a H8

chip and put that into a 64 pin socket in your ecu.

So yes it's possible to "chip" R33 ecu's but it ain't cheap.

this is a quote i got back from dr drift, i little bit more expensive than a pfc but it has its benefits over pfc as well.

"Rough cost is $1000 for ECU modifications and bas maps to suit your mods,

and $300 - $400 for a full tune on the dyno."

[Mr Jollwah]

Becareful talking about Benefits of STD ecu over PFC.

ALOT of people around here love them

Nah PFC does have better map resolution over std ecu 20 x 20 over 16 x 16.

Not enough for me though, I'd rather keep the knock retard function of the std ecu rather than a winky check engine light.

[W0rp3D]

Not enough for me though, I'd rather keep the knock retard function of the std ecu rather than a winky check engine light.

i tend to agree, apparently the pfc display will tell you there is too much knock but i wouldnt have the handset on display so i would never see it.

i know the pfc is a popular item but it seems that the std ecu just has a few more safety features that i like, this is also coming from someone who already owns a pfc.

[Mr Jollwah]

Ah Ok, I was thinking bout using my r33 ecu but being in SA It seems easier to go a z32 ecu with nistune.

Besides nistune allows realtime tuning though consult port and dataloging, which is really what I wan't.

[W0rp3D]

from the info i received from dr drift he tunes it on the dyno which unless i am wrong that is real time tuning isnt it?

[Mr Jollwah]

Yes it is real time I'd assume that dr drift would intstall a daughter board into the r33 ecu you'd then use an emulator to modify the rom and then burn a new chip with your tune and your done.

Some tuners use a development ecu which has the daughterboard installed and use that to develop the tune and then burn and install a "chip" into the customers ecu.

The advantage of nistune is that you plug your laptop into your consult plug via a consult interface and make the adjustments, no emulator or programmer required.

I believe that you can use nistune on a r33 ecu with a daughter board installed.

[Dr_Drift]

Yes nistune does work with a cheaper emulator than I use, which means more workshops will have the ability to tune R33s in real time very soon. Also, as the R33 eprom based boards are now available, compared to the old single burn expensive H8 style processor maps, means no additional charge for retunes on new mods etc etc on eprom boarded ecus... h8 processor replacement rather than daughter boards are still a good option for those not looking at many retunes.

Sam

Edited May 11, 2008 by Dr_Drift

[W0rp3D]

how long does it take for you to do what you have to on an r33 ecu before you tune, as in do you do it on the day or do i have to send it to you first?