Can The Police Bring Up Defect Details In Their Cars?

[Sinful]

i got harrassed once

couldn't believe it, I was doing nothing wrong.... all i was doing was going 90 in a 60 zone on bald semi slicks in a low car, with modifications

I swear i was doing nothing wrong.

This is a useless post and something that we are trying to cut down on..as per the new rules

Do you have a better experience or could you stay on topic?

[Sinful]

We get picked on cause the cops know the car in the area..

The cop has stated the defects that we have had going back as far as January last year all from his police car.

So yes they can just pull up your records at any given time if they want too

[Liz]

This is a useless post and something that we are trying to cut down on..as per the new rules

Do you have a better experience or could you stay on topic?

ok sorry. *serious face*

yes i do. the good news is, I didn't get busted for it.

[DRD-00F]

great

stories

hansel

I'm assuming I got picked on a lot cause my car looked like this, and was fairly defectable...

LAWL! Naw I kid It looked like this...

[D_I_F]

We get picked on cause the cops know the car in the area..

The cop has stated the defects that we have had going back as far as January last year all from his police car.

So yes they can just pull up your records at any given time if they want too

Well If I was a cop and I had pulled over a car who had foam spray painted black as a pod enclosure, Yes I would pull them over again.

[Lachlan33]

Just because some of you haven't been unfairly harrassed doesn't mean its a non issue.

I happened to be parked at a lookout with a friend of mine (he had his 34 there)

Both cars were off, we were just hanging out with another friend.

A highway patrol car turns up and 2 coppas got out. They asked both of us to start our cars, rev them etc (to check if the exhaust is too loud)

They then went through the engine bays of both cars questioning various things trying to find a defect. Eventually they concluded that the cars were fine. Instead of just leaving, they told us to leave the area.

It was a public lookout with picnic tables and all, we weren't being fined or charged with anything and yet they told us to clear off. To me, that is harrassment. We were nothing but polite to them and did everything they asked, so why did we get told to leave?

The cops aren't perfect no matter what some of you seem to blindly think.

[D_I_F]

Why didn't you just say that they weren't yours?

I don't think they can do anything if the owner isn't there.

[DRD-00F]

Not 100% certain, but I don't think they can make you unlock a locked car without being under arrest... But the whole, it's not mine officer, works pretty well, until you have to leave

[TTT]

you and your friend were hanging out at a lookout?

together?

in my day, lookouts were for fornicating.

that's why you were told to leave the area.

you were taking up fornication space while not fornicating..

or... were you?

[Liz]

haha

[Sinful]

Well If I was a cop and I had pulled over a car who had foam spray painted black as a pod enclosure, Yes I would pull them over again.

Sorry wrong car..and bit silly seeing cops dont have exray vision!

[D_I_F]

I was a general statement.

If you had pulled over a car that had defects and then cleared them wouldn't you obviously check them again.

Most people don't learn the first time and just keep repeating their mistakes.

[Lachlan33]

you and your friend were hanging out at a lookout?

together?

in my day, lookouts were for fornicating.

that's why you were told to leave the area.

you were taking up fornication space while not fornicating..

or... were you?

Hahaha nah mate Was just me and 2 friends hanging out admiring our cars.

I know your suposed to follow police directions if they ask you to leave an area, but surely they need a decent reason before just asking people to move off from a public location when they are found to be obeying all laws?

[Risking]

Well If I was a cop and I had pulled over a car who had foam spray painted black as a pod enclosure, Yes I would pull them over again.

Whats with being a bitch????

There is appropriate materials around to do such a job with, temporary or permanant.

I do however agree that most people dont learn from the first experiance (myself included)

But apparently my welded in full cage with intrusion bars is legal if its got thin padding.......

Yet from a legal point the entire front half is illegal and the rear must comply with several rules.

Honestly the rules are a joke (yes I deal with the rules daily) and if you talk to anyone else who deals with them they will all agree unless they are a tree hugger or RTA inspector.

Engineers reports themselves are bordering on a joke but worth while having for the majority of modifications.

All the ADR's can be purchased annually on disc and the appropriate suplimentries are sent to you as they are released.

There is no rules that mention Pod filters directly. There are ADR's that relate to inlet tracts etc which obviously your pod must comply to. Same goes for exhaust systems, ring hitech mufflers and ask them about the extensive testing it takes to meet ALL ADR's and it will become very clear why just about anything other than standard is illegal.

Edited May 13, 2008 by Risking

[D_I_F]

I'm not being a bitch, it's common sense.

I would maybe contact the RTA about the cage. There seems to be a lot of different people saying it is legal and others that say is isn't.

[Risking]

The front half is always and has always been illegal. Be it through the dash (in my case) or around the dash (like jap bolt in kits)

The rear half just needs to comply. Seat/s removed, any restraints including child restraints removed, the upper most support must not protrude forward of the front seats head rests (cant be any way to wack your head on the hoop) Mountings must not fowl original structure etc etc.

We engineer cages almost every day so the rules are pretty clear cut according to the RTA but not to the police. Which is a shame......

Same can really be said about aftermarket seats.

Edited May 13, 2008 by Risking

[Risking]

On topic, as far as im aware the police can't view the details of your prior defects but can check the rego and see everything else.

I was told this by my "mate" a week ago who keeps defecting my car.

Actually thinking back you had the pleasure of meeting him in the caltex servo once or twice corinne.

[D_I_F]

On topic, as far as im aware the police can't view the details of your prior defects but can check the rego and see everything else.

I was told this by my "mate" a week ago who keeps defecting my car.

Actually thinking back you had the pleasure of meeting him in the caltex servo once or twice corinne.

Surely they would have everything on computer.

I don't remember, sorry.

[Risking]

No from what he explained they can see when/where etc but not the actual items you have been defected for. I guess it would be a faily laborious task for someone to list and attatch every defect item to a particular vehicle so they just list the defect notice number.

He knew exactly what he did me for anyhow, If I remember rightly I was filling the car up when he pulled in behind.

That time I was sent to the DECC inspection station on waminda avenue or what ever its called but ended up getting it all sorted.

Last time was the EPA and DECC which was not hard to sort out either.

You dont have to be with the vehicle either, and if they ask you to open the bonnet or the car just do it. Your only going to get a letter in the mail saying you have been requested to present the vehicle for a randon full RTA and EPA inspection at one of the relevant RTA's

That is not a defect its mearly a f**k you get the car inspected cause we know its illegal, and if it doesnt pass your rego is now canned.

Yes I've been there and done that before as well. An old neihbour complained I got a letter, Car was parked I was not around it, week latter I got a letter. You can be defected in a car park or private property IF the police have proof the vehicle was driven to that particular destination via public roads in the condition they found it in.

Again, I got done in my driveway. They had me on video driving the car up the road and parking it, then they also had the entire defect process on tape. How can I argue I didnt drive it with a loud exhaust when they have me driving it on the road on video?

More recently I had the car running with the side pipes fitted, full slicks etc etc. New neihbour complained and the cops arrived. It was in my drive way and during the day, the neihbour was questioned had I driven the vehicle on the road like this? He obviously told the truth and said no just that it was very noisy and had been running in the driveway for a while, they got the same story from me and the police could not touch the vehicle even though it has full registration.

Edited May 13, 2008 by Risking

[TTT]

why do you have a full cage and side pipes on a Proton GTi?