Can A Rb20det Or A Sr20det Fit Into A Pintara Trx And How Easy?

[scott5556]

i was wondering how easy the conversion is for a pintara from the ka24 to a sr20 or rb20?

[blind_elk]

KA24 is an east-west engine.

[scathing]

Not necessarily. The KA24DE saw duty in the US-delivered Silvia in a longtitudinal mount.

I'm pretty sure old-school Pintaras are RWD - my mate had a TRX with an FJ20 - and I don't think anyone makes an FR with a latitudinally mounted engine.

Edited June 25, 2008 by scathing

[TTT]

you sure you're not thinking about the bluebird trx?

such as http://autospeed.com/cms/article.html?&A=0455&P=3

[scathing]

After looking at pictures of the Pintara and Bluebird, yeah I probably am thinking of the Bluebird TRX.

And according to Wikipedia, the KA24DE powered Pintara was FWD. SR20 is the only reasonably feasible option, I'm afraid.

SR20 > RB20 anyway :flamesuit-on:

[B. J.]

you could possibly get the SR20DE out of the pulsar and thwack it in...

the KA24DE did come out in u13 bluebirds, and is quite a popular donk, and has been transplanted into a few U12 Pintaras + Turbo'd

CA18DE/T is another option - (from the EXA)

Rb20 = NO.

I presume in saying KA24 you've got a U12

head over to www.antrx.com and see what they've got going on.

Edited June 26, 2008 by B. J.

[Factory 5]

make sure you add the right stickers and autobarn washer nozzles and chrome hubcaps...

oh and its GOT to have the throwover seat covers.

nightshades

5 inch cannon

and go to antrx.com.......

read for about 3 days.

dont post anything, just search & read.

the bottom line is:

SR20det fits,

need a SR20de gearbox from N14/15 pulsar

OR get a KA24e 5 speed manual, get the SR bellhousing bolted to that (with a 4 minute grind job)

need bluebird engine mounts or custom

need pulsar driveshafts & cv joints, possible custom

new exh

new loom

[blind_elk]

Not necessarily. The KA24DE saw duty in the US-delivered Silvia in a longtitudinal mount.

I'm pretty sure old-school Pintaras are RWD - my mate had a TRX with an FJ20 - and I don't think anyone makes an FR with a latitudinally mounted engine.

The Pintara with the KA24 is a FWD. So, the KA24 is the E-W version. It superseded the R31 Pintara, which was RWD.

[nitestalkr]

surely the SR20DET out of the u13 bluebird would fit.. east-west mounted DET and will fit anywhere an east-west mounted DE will fit...

Would probably pull about 147fwkw out of it with a decent install...

The other engine you could swap out for (prolly harder to find) is the SR20DE VVL (not sure on engine number).. i think it comes in one series of xtrail... nice motor and will give you more power than a normal DE.. close to DET performance in standard form i believe

edit: ok i did a bit more research.. the VVL version of SR20 is called SR20VE.. There is also a SR20VET version of this engine which is said to have come out of the factory at 280ps (206kw) although this engine may have been mounted N/S but i cant find info on this..

The SR20VE is good for about 136kw

Keeping in mind the a standard SR20DE is good for about 105kw at flywheel.

Edited June 26, 2008 by nitestalkr

[scathing]

There is also a SR20VET version of this engine which is said to have come out of the factory at 280ps (206kw) although this engine may have been mounted N/S but i cant find info on this..

SR20VET is found in the X-Trail, so its also a latitudinally mounted engine.

A GTiR's SR20DET (with the quad throttles) makes more power, stock, than the U13's SR20DET. I think the blocks are stronger and the GTiR uses a T28 to the U13's T25, as well. It should be cheaper than the SR20VET, and will certainly be easier to find in Australia.

Edited June 26, 2008 by scathing

[nitestalkr]

The GTiR's SR20 does make more power and torque than the u13's.. problem is they are a bitch to mount E/W and to transfer from 4wd to 2wd.. people used to try it in pulsars (N14&15), but most people took the easier (and i dare say cheaper) route of the u13 SR...

Something i would like to see would be how many of the components from the GTiR version would bolt up to the others.. quad throttles etc..

A forum that i used to be a member of would prolly have more info on E/W mounted engines and value for money options.. www.pulsar.org.au

If the forum hasn't gone to the trolls yet, it should have some decent info..

Interesting the turbo flanges differ though... didnt know that.

[Beer Baron]

umm GTI-R SR20s are mounted east-west standard.... and it's pretty much a front drive set up too, just with a transfer case off the back of the box sending power to the rear. after all GTI-R is based on an N14 front wheel drive platform, just with awd added.

[Beer Baron]

oh, and it has lots of advantages over the other versions of SR20. it has solid lifters, bigger cams, better springs, better head, quad throttles, piston oil squirters in the block, bigger T28 steel wheel turbo (that can handle serious boost), different block, different crank (wider conrods and conrod bearings too), some say better pistons too. that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

[vinnie32GTS4]

rb20 does fit in a pinntara as i was in one last night..hes got a silvertop in it but i think the rb20 is from a ceferio

[madbung]

The Pintara with the KA24 is a FWD. So, the KA24 is the E-W version. It superseded the R31 Pintara, which was RWD.

Bingo, also rebadged as a Ford Corsair..

[TTT]

bigger T28 steel wheel turbo (that can handle serious boost),

the baron of beer is correct.

a friend was trying to pop his as he had another engine and turbo setup ready to go in.

AVCR peak hold showed 1.9Bar

Apexi RSM peak hold also showed 9765rpm.

Didn't pop.

[scott5556]

so i could use the sr20det from a gti'r with a pulsar gear box and it should be all fine?

[s2k12]

rb20 does fit in a pinntara as i was in one last night..hes got a silvertop in it but i think the rb20 is from a ceferio

That would have been an R31 pintara, not a U12 pintara.