Apexi Pfc, Copilot, And Pc Interface

[paulr33]

for those interested ive added fc-hako to the powerfc faq

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Fa...80#entry5430380

[antonio]

Hey Paul,

What do you think of the HAKO? Im looking into CoPilot due to its freeware, and the forum its run off is actually always getting discussion which is good!

[paulr33]

yep fc hako is good

works well and lets you use any of the powerfc software

if your interested in checking it out ill be doing a talk on it at the next sau vic meeting SEP 21st

check out vic section for next meeting info

[STATUS]

reliable co pilot download? most ive tried have been buggy downloads.

[antonio]

Awesome, so it works fine with DataLogit and all that i suppose..

Looks to just be a data connection converter so really the difference between the FC-Datalogit and FC-HAKO in terms of hardware would just be apearence i presume? Wiring would be the same and features you have access to..

Edited September 4, 2010 by antonio

[_bk_]

Awesome, so it works fine with DataLogit and all that i suppose..

Looks to just be a data connection converter so really the difference between the FC-Datalogit and FC-HAKO in terms of hardware would just be apearence i presume? Wiring would be the same and features you have access to..

FC-HAKO includes USB interface, rather than using a USB-to-RS232 converter cable which then gets converted to TTL levels with a MAX232 or similar chip.

Not sure if people use more than 2 analog inputs or the 4 switch outputs. Those are not supported.

It also supports official software (FC-Pro JP only, including analog inputs), and third party software.

It also supports firmware updating, if any bug fixes or new features need to be added to the hardware in the future.

[antonio]

Thanks for the info, will try and make it down to the SAUVIC Meeting and see what people think about it.. But i think im set in stone to purchase 1.

Since i plan on using it on an R33 S1 instead of having gauges on track just making a mount for it where the Head unit would sit..

[_bk_]

I've sold more overseas than to those in Australia!

That would also explain why apexi stop making ecr33 PowerFCs... everyone wants one, but no one wants to buy one :-)

David. (fc-hako.com)

[akaaa7]

the fc-hako cable is the same as the datalogit cable. they both plug into the powerfc and then plug into your laptop or PC and away you go

be sure to note fc-hako is a cable solution and datalogit is a cable and software solution

in the testing i have done it works the same and performs well and lets you use a number of applications

the cable is on their website as per bk's post and ill be adding it to the powerfc FAQ this weekend with some photos etc

there are photos on the site as well

g'day paul, quick question where can the software be sourced from if you buy the hako cable, and if so is it free, how many different types available, which is best and is it just as good as datalogit? cheers cam

[W0rp3D]

reliable co pilot download? most ive tried have been buggy downloads.

http://www.mr-s.org/copilot/Copilot_6_2_2.msi that one just worked for me.

[paulr33]

g'day paul, quick question where can the software be sourced from if you buy the hako cable, and if so is it free, how many different types available, which is best and is it just as good as datalogit? cheers cam

every question you have is covered in the PFC FAQ

its in my signature and look for "HAKO" in the PFC FAQ

[Don Dada]

happy to test one, i use mine about 6 or 7 times a week. Would be happy to on sell them if they work as well as the fc-datalogit.

Anything new on this guys???

I'm particularly interested in its compatibility with Fc edit/datalogit .....any hicups???

[paulr33]

trent had some issues with it working and i need to check with david as i dont know why either

this is the cable that i have , i loaned it to hamish to test with

ive used it flawlessly on my car a few times

[heller44]

Haven't had any issues using mine yet, with the very limited amount of time that I have had available.. Definite novice at this so learning slowly. Even managed to get copilot running.

[STATUS]

every question you have is covered in the PFC FAQ

its in my signature and look for "HAKO" in the PFC FAQ

im pretty sure it is driver related, my toughbook (running XP) is stable as but that said it has eleven billion tuning programs on it, i reckon the USB to serial driver it comes with is conflicting with another one i have installed for the old white datalogit. I use serial for catalogue now as it offers 100% (never ever had a connect issue) reliability.

For those without so many other tuning programs already loaded i reckon it will work fine, i was not willing to delete programs and drivers i use everyday (or al least 2 3 times a week) just to verify a driver conflict as it does not happen with any other interface.

When it did load up it performed flawlessly so for those looking for a cheap interface its a good option.

If you have vista i reckon your gonna struggle with the usb to serial as its a known issue... even the original datalogit usb to serial was unreliable with vista.....best bet xp.

[_bk_]

Those that have used the FC-HAKO:

Are you connecting the cable directly to the PFC without an extension cable? Is the plug a tight fit? If so, that could be part of the issue as it should go in much farther. If you have an extension cable, please utilise that.

Also, are you removing the cable by pulling on the actual cable, rather than on the connector? Please do not do this.

If it is a tight fit or does not work any more, I'm happy to send out a replacement cable, or get it replaced in person (by John) if you're in Perth. Send an email to sales@fc-hako.com and we'll organise it from there. Or if you're happy to do it, modify the connector like:

One other possibility is that the laptop may be in power-saving mode, where it might place USB devices into a lower power state after X amount of minutes of non-usage. But I am not sure if this could be causing it.

I've only had it properly tested with XP, so I am not sure when it comes to Vista / 7.

Sorry about the issues. I'm trying to figure out what is exactly causing them.

David.

Edited October 5, 2010 by _bk_

[STATUS]

^^^ dont stress 98% of tuning programs bomb on vista

Its the main reason i backloaded XP onto my toughbook.

[Guilt-Toy]

you have a toughbook! you lucky man.... how good are they! my dell c400 does me fine for now.

^^^ dont stress 98% of tuning programs bomb on vista

Its the main reason i backloaded XP onto my toughbook.

[paulr33]

my testing was on windows xp and it was sweeet no issues

i have heard vista is generally ass and i wouldnt touch vista with a 10ft pole

[Equinox]

Just upgrade to Windows 7. I've been using it on my laptop for 2 years with three different USB to Serial convertors (all running at once on the same machine at times) and it's worked flawlessly.