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fark.. you guys are still going with this :)

I been in Abu Dhabi in UAE tuning, fuel here costs 50c a litre for 98 =) and money is never a problem for guys wanting to build cars...

how different is the Caltex stuff to the United stuff? With e85 i never had any starting issues, only difference was a extra 4 cranks of the engine and that was it.

It's stickied mate, thread'll nevar die!!!

I never tried the united stuff so i can't really comment on it, appart from saying it's f**king awesome fuel :thumbsup:

This was the wideband im thinking about getting, what do you think for the price?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Looks like a nice quality unit.

You're not interested in logging though? I didn't see anywhere saying it had 0-5v analog out...

This was the wideband im thinking about getting, what do you think for the price?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

I agree, does it have a programmable output for the ecu? I find logging with the EMU the best way to track afr's.

I have the LC-1 kit, its been in for nearly a year with no issue. I know a few guys have had problems with these in the past but for $200 it has been a good buy. Perhaps running E85 prolongs the sensor life?

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/xcart/p...=262&page=1

fark.. you guys are still going with this :P

I been in Abu Dhabi in UAE tuning, fuel here costs 50c a litre for 98 =) and money is never a problem for guys wanting to build cars...

how different is the Caltex stuff to the United stuff? With e85 i never had any starting issues, only difference was a extra 4 cranks of the engine and that was it.

I have used all three ethanol brands available from the pump, There wasnt that much between them but the Caltex E70 definitely starts much better in my car and feels stronger.

Im wondering if there is a happy mixture, with enough petrol to help burn the mixture completely during the downward stroke, rather than pump it out the exhaust...

interesting write up. anyone else tested the ethanol content of united's stuff?

btw the reason for caltex's higher price is they're simply selling it at 20c/L less than ulp regardless of the mix. so it goes up and down with ulp by the same amount, even tho its only 15-30% ulp

Interesting.. I was going to come home soon and get back on the E85 but now something else has come up and I wont be home for quite a while.. *sigh*

nice results... its good shit

Ive only ever used the United fuel. No complaints here.

As for cold start it would start every time on the 3rd crank.

Ive noticed mine starts MUCH faster in the warmer weather we have had lately.

Starts just as fast as my commodore (which is straight away)

I have more of an issue as the fly-by-wire throttle doesn't allow me to give it a squirt of pedal to start, coupled with the Emanage not being great with cranking enrichment... I really appreciate the e70 any morning its under 15 degrees.

Not real impressed with Caltex's reason to swing between E70 and E85. Might be OK for those commodores but not for us with a single tune for 85% Ethanol.!!!

They are just following the US lead they have been told to follow. Its a GM global push.

Nothing 5 litres of petrol wont fix, the main hassle is you wont know when they are changing the mix. Remember, none of us are supposed to be running Caltex bio Eflex.

How will 5 litre of petrol fix the issue when the ethanol content is already less then it should/needs to be?

What does it need to be? Do you have an e85 tune from one of the other suppliers?

If you are running Caltex you will have an e70 tune which will run fine when and if they switch over to e85 by just throwing a few litres of 98 in... Good idea to have a wideband if you are playing with the Caltex brew.

What does it need to be? Do you have an e85 tune from one of the other suppliers?

If you are running Caltex you will have an e70 tune which will run fine when and if they switch over to e85 by just throwing a few litres of 98 in... Good idea to have a wideband if you are playing with the Caltex brew.

It will be tuned on the United E85 so I would assume that would be 85%. But I now see what your saying. If you tune it on the "E70" and you get "E85" a few litres of normal fuel would make it a bit more even. But are you going to bust out the lab in the fuel station to work out what it is everytime you need a tank of juice?

It will be tuned on the United E85 so I would assume that would be 85%. But I now see what your saying. If you tune it on the "E70" and you get "E85" a few litres of normal fuel would make it a bit more even. But are you going to bust out the lab in the fuel station to work out what it is everytime you need a tank of juice?

If you call a simple wideband sensor and gauge a "lab" lol, United e85 seems to be e90-95 from my experience, the Southland Manildra blend is closer to the mark. I would suggest tuning for the fuel you plan to use.

i have mine tuned on E85 from united. was already mega fat on the dyno due to a problem we had on the day, but around the 0.76 lambda mark.

today at winton, with the caltex E70 in it, used mix trim to take out 8% of fuel and it was still at 0.71 on the meter (microtech meter only reads as low as 0.71).

caltex mix is meant to be from march to mid november.

im going to give it a week, then get a litre from caltex and do another test to see if the tanks have been filled with E85 yet.

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