Jump to content
SAU Community

Red Light Cameras..

Awesome

By Awesome,
in General Automotive Discussion

 Share

Recommended Posts

Awesome Collaborator

Awesome

Posted
Posted

Hi, today i drove past a red light camera.. although, i went thru a yellow light (just)

and then it turned red half way through the lights..

Do you reckon they get you for doing red completely

or does going thru a yellow light & half way thru it turns red they get you..

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/242758-red-light-cameras/
Share on other sites
Iron Chef Grand Master

Iron Chef

Posted
Posted

Actually that's not true - you are only allowed to enter an intersection on a yellow when it is clear that you weren't able to pull up at the lights safely. You're not supposed to enter an intersection at any time when the light is red.

A couple of guys in SA got done for pulling out of a service station and accelerating through an adjacent intersection on a yellow, even though it hadn't turned red till after they went through. (Before you ask, Australian Road Rules are the same across Australia, although I think Vic has some kind of exceptions with the 'turn right from the left lane' thing they've got going on in the centre of Melbourne).

Having said all this, red light camera triggers are just after the white line as you enter an intersection, so if you'd made it past that before the light went red, you're probably safe.

Iron Chef Grand Master

Iron Chef

Posted
Posted (edited)

Most of them in SA do these days - I know I instinctively slow down to go through intersections now, so I guess having them around the place has done its job....

...oh and please tell me you know those girls in your avatar...

Edited by Iron Chef
some_cs_student Veteran

some_cs_student

Posted
Posted

Terry, Corner Nepean Hwy and Bay Road, I've seen people get done ON a red, its a very short light (ie. it goes amber to red quicker than what I would consider average).

I've never had an issue with it :)

In regard to Red light camera function, if your wheels cross the section in *front* of the white line (ie. up until the pedestrian crossing if there is one), and your rear wheels pass it (0.5 or 1second?) after the light is red, then the red-light camera goes off. In theory that is... :)

Kujotk Grand Master

Kujotk

Posted
Posted

last i heard, only 10 out of over 100 red light cameras actually work in sydney at the moment.... they still might flash but no film in them..... also your only allowed to cross in yellow if your not able to stop in time..... but a camera doesn't know if you could or couldnt stop, so they only flash with the rear axel crossing after it turns red

IanB Veteran

IanB

Posted
Posted

I got a happy snap one night going through a yellow here in brisbane. Was yellow when I entered the intersection and yellow when I exited. I dont think i was over the speed limit in any major way (5 kph tops?). I never saw or heard anything about it, was in a crowded area however so the embarrassment of setting the flash off was bad enough.

GTR-N1 Grand Master

GTR-N1

Posted
Posted

So does this mean that if in dense traffic, your rear wheels set off the camera, you'd have a case in court ??

Is there a precedent?

Any law graduates in this forum?

Why can't all those law book cases be put onto disks?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

GOING TO BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!

AND DREEEEEEAAAAAAAMMMM OF MORRRRRRREEEEE QUEESSSSSSSTIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNSSS1

Primordial Grand Master

Primordial

Posted
Posted
Hi, today i drove past a red light camera.. although, i went thru a yellow light (just)

and then it turned red half way through the lights..

Do you reckon they get you for doing red completely

or does going thru a yellow light & half way thru it turns red they get you..

No flashy flashy, no ticky ticky... You'd know about it if you set off the camera, even in daylight.

some_cs_student Veteran

some_cs_student

Posted
Posted
So does this mean that if in dense traffic, your rear wheels set off the camera, you'd have a case in court ??

Is there a precedent?

Any law graduates in this forum?

Not a law graduate, but entered an intersection, got stuck in traffic which suddenly stopped, light turned amber, started moving forward when light turned red and went through intersection.

In the picture you can see my brake lights on, but it's only a tiny bit into the intersection.

Got red light ticket, went to court, judge was not willing to listen and through it out in 5mins even though the prosecution continually changed the story of how the system worked, every 2 weeks it was a different story, and it was changed again on the day of the court, they also delayed the hearing by about 4months to work out what to do.

In *theory* if your are *on* the line and the light goes red (as in your rear axle is on the line) you *should* be fine, in reality I don't agree, if you are in this situation I see two choices:

*Charge into the intersection, if your not near the line your, your in the intersection and your fine.

*Reverse back behind that line, if the camera goes off you can probably get away with reversing back (which is illegal as well but probably a minor issue).

POP23 Newbie

POP23

Posted
Posted

Below are good websites with plenty of real legal advice, particularly the first one set up by Sean Hardy, a Barrister in Victoria. If you do settle in, and spend some time reading through them you will realise that the odds are stacked against the motorist. The more you read, the greater angst you will no doubt get over road law and radar policy transparency. Some of the threads give very good advice on what to say......or not to say when involved with situations involving the Police. Might be worth posting your red light camera circumstance to get some clarification. Keep an eye out for Sabre in the post's, suspected of being a TMU operative!

http://www.trafficlaw.com.au/forum/

http://www.fightfines.info/forums/index.php

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • MBS206
      Duncan's V37.......race car?

      By MBS206 · Posted

      Even more fun, leave all the ADAS stuff plugged in, but in different locations, hopefully avoid any codes!   And honestly, all these new cars with their weird electronics. Pull all the electronics out Duncan, and just shove an aftermarket ECU and if needed a trans controller in, along with a PDM. Make it run basic but race car styled!
    • Duncan
      Duncan's V37.......race car?

      By Duncan · Posted

      To follow up a question from earlier too since I had the front bar off again (fking!) This is what is between the bumper and the drivers side wheel And this is the navigator side, only one thing but its a biggy! So basically....no putting coolers in the wheel arches without a lot of moving other stuff. Assuming I move to properly race prepping this car I'll take that job on and see how the computers respond to removing a whole bunch of ADAS modules
    • Duncan
      Duncan's V37.......race car?

      By Duncan · Posted

      So I prepped the car for another track day on Wednesday (will be interesting to see coolant temps post flushing out and the larger reservoir, with a forecast of 3-14 being 20o cooler than last time I took it out). Couple of things to mention; since I am just driving the car and not taking a support vehicle, I took the rear seats out and just loaded the back up Team Trackday style. Look at all that space! To cover off removing the rear seat....it is weird (note the hybrid is probably different because it wouldn't have folding rear seats) Basically, you remove the lower seat base, very similar to a r series but it is a clip that pulls forward to release the base rather than it being bolted down. Easy Then, you need to remove the side section of the rear seat on each side. There is a 14mm head nut at the bottom of the side piece, the it slides upwards off a hook at the top to release; you also need to unhook the seatbelt from the loop at the top. Then the centre piece is weird. You need to release/fold the seats forward with the tab in the boot on each side From there, there are 2,x12mm headed bolts holding the rear of each seat to the folding bracket, under the trim between the rear seat and the boot (4x christmas tree clips there, they suck). The seat is out but you can see where the bolts attach to the bracket
    • RP1421
      S15 Spec R

      By RP1421 · Posted

      As discussed in the previous post, the bushes in the 110 needed replacing. I took this opportunity to replace the castor bushes, the front lower control arm, lower the car and get the alignment dialled in with new tyres. I took it down to Alignment Motorsports on the GC to get this work done and also get more out of the Shockworks as I felt like I wasn't getting the full use out of them.  To cut a very long story short, it ended up being the case the passenger side castor arm wouldn't accept the brand new bush as the sleeve had worn badly enough to the point you could push the new bush in by hand and completely through. Trying a pair of TRD bushes didn't fix the issue either (I had originally gone with Hardrace bushes). We needed to urgently source another castor arm, and thankfully this was sourced and the guys at the shop worked on my car until 7pm on a Saturday to get everything done. The car rides a lot nicer now with the suspension dialled in properly. Lowered the car a little as well to suit the lower profile front tyres, and just bring the car down generally. Eternally thankful for the guys down at the shop to get the car sorted, we both pulled big favours from our contacts to get it done on the Saturday.  Also plugged in the new Stedi foglights into the S15, and even from a quick test in the garage I'm keen to see how they look out on the road. I had some concerns about the length of the LED body and whether it'd fit in the foglight housing but it's fine.  I've got a small window coming up next month where I'll likely get a little paint work done on the 110 to remove the rear wing, add a boot wing and roof wing, get the side skirt fixed up and colour match the little panel on the tail lights so that I can install some badges that I've kept in storage. I'm also tempted to put in a new pair of headlights on the 110.  Until then, here's some more pictures from Easter this year. 
    • joshuaho96
      R32 GTS (RB20DE) Injectors Replacement

      By joshuaho96 · Posted

      I would put a fuel pressure gauge between the filter and the fuel rail, see if it's maintaining good fuel pressure at idle going up to the point when it stalls. Do you see any strange behavior in commanded fuel leading up to the point when it stalls? You might have to start going through the service manual and doing a long list of sensor tests if it's not the fuel system for whatever reason.
×
×
  • Create New...