Infringement Notice

[Coolduck_69]

Hi all,

Got a infringement notice and cop a $187, for having a red neon in the grill lastnite, i swear these cops must of had a quiet nite, nothing else to do, they spent a good 1/2 hr checking over my car, lol i havent done any mod to it so they were wasting their time, omg these cops were so sad, i said i was once told i could have neons in my car and his reply was they officer may not have must experience as me, and didnt know. thats bs! then i ask him if i could have blue and he said as long as it doesnt dazzle, omg cops will pick on u for anything. does anyone know if i have a chance to get off this??? and p.s it wasnt as if i was driving a skyline just a stock vy, sighhh....

[cheez]

yeh but its the law there mate

if it was green or yellow or purple no isue, but neons on a car cant b red, blue or white as it can b seen as immitating a copper.

also law is u shouldnt b able to see the light source, ie under car, cant see the neon but see the glow so ok

Edited November 23, 2008 by cheez

[jezza boii]

I was under the impression that you were allowed to have neons... You're just not allowed to have them on while you're driving. I hear multiple different stories

Maybe I shouldn't have just ordered those blue neons...

[WYTSKY]

honestly... not much to whinge about mate, very easy fix and a small price to pay, I know it may not seem fair but as cheez said it is the law. the price that some of us have to pay to get are skylines back to what they believe to be acceptable and remove performance parts can be enormous!

one thing to note though, I have a blue led strip lighting up the rear garnish of my car to show the word skyline ( check my avatar) I have never had a problem.

one cop once told me its ok because it doesnt flash or "dazzle" as the cop told you...eg flashing or pulsing.

does yours pulse? because that could have been the main reason why.

Adam

[_bobo_]

i got blue leds pretty bright in the license plate place...but as above..you can only see the glow and all times i been pulled up never had any problem with them. sorry to hear about that fine ..maybe because it was visible and at the front of the car. eg cops maybe i dunoo...damn cops sometimes

[Coolduck_69]

no it doesnt flash, just solid colour red, its even a neon tube so for those that know they aint as bright as LED lights. 3 weeks ago I went thru a booze bus and the coppa said "going for the nite rider look hey" and i said "arhh yerr tryin,lol". see these cops will pik on whatever. Im in the hunt for a r34, so our of curiosity wat are you allow to have and not have, I heard you cant have BOV? is that so...

[jezza boii]

I want to put my neons in the engine bay of my MR2. Do you think I would get away with that?

[rs73]

I think it's written somewhere in ADR which applies to the legality of all lights of vehicle in Australia. I can't remember the exact wordings but basically:

All forwad facing headlights should be amber (white-ish xenon are allowed if they're factory fitted ones),

All backward facing taillights should be red

Indicators should be yellow or orange

Reverse indicator white

etc

No other colours are permitted, e.g. no green, purple, blue etc.

It's all ruled out so to avoid confusion. Imagine having following a car with orange brake lights and red indicator.

How would I realise that the car is braking hard if I was expecting to see a red brake lights but instead it was lighting up orange? Worse even if people have blue brake lights... imagine the car in front brake hard to avoid collision with a kid and the following drivers behind took a few extra milliseconds to think "what the heck does those blue lights means?" before realising it's all too late and you end up with a serious accident.

Keep the neons for the autosalon, mate.

[cheez]

there is just 1 thing i should add, with regards to colour placement on the car. u cant have red & blue light from the front and blue only from the bak. over the license plate is diff, as long as the ligh source is hidden

[jezza boii]

I would never use them while driving. I just want them for show when I'm parked. I guess unless a cop checked inside my engine they wouldn't know I had neons in there.

[Mean_R34]

Neons are distractive and therfore illegal. Period.

[CAJFLY]

honestly... not much to whinge about mate, very easy fix and a small price to pay, I know it may not seem fair but as cheez said it is the law. the price that some of us have to pay to get are skylines back to what they believe to be acceptable and remove performance parts can be enormous!

one thing to note though, I have a blue led strip lighting up the rear garnish of my car to show the word skyline ( check my avatar) I have never had a problem.

one cop once told me its ok because it doesnt flash or "dazzle" as the cop told you...eg flashing or pulsing.

does yours pulse? because that could have been the main reason why.

Adam

yeh i have the same light strip but in white which only goes on wen the reverse lights go on. its good as its brighter than the reverse lights and i can see when im parking at night. BONUS!!!!

[RBPOWA-(TJ)]

dont think your allowed to have a BOV, sound polution or what ever. be some were in the ADR. stock bovs on rb's work fine, been told you may have idle issue's or somthing other problem putting aftermarket bov on .

someone WILL correct me, as i dont know first hand

[R31Nismoid]

Im in the hunt for a r34, so our of curiosity wat are you allow to have and not have, I heard you cant have BOV? is that so...

Well for one, R34's have a stock BOV.

An aftermarket ATMO BOV is illegal - a simple check of the law would confirm this

(and the fact there is a 15+page EPA/Roadworthy sticky thread in this section)

As for the neons, serves you right for having them in the first place

There was a massive operation on all weekend from the police, so im not surprised.

Either/or - SAU isnt the place to come and have a whinge. The law is there and no-one can change it

[iamhe77]

I think it's written somewhere in ADR which applies to the legality of all lights of vehicle in Australia. I can't remember the exact wordings but basically:

All forwad facing headlights should be amber (white-ish xenon are allowed if they're factory fitted ones),

All backward facing taillights should be red

Indicators should be yellow or orange

Reverse indicator white

etc

No other colours are permitted, e.g. no green, purple, blue etc.

It's all ruled out so to avoid confusion. Imagine having following a car with orange brake lights and red indicator.

How would I realise that the car is braking hard if I was expecting to see a red brake lights but instead it was lighting up orange? Worse even if people have blue brake lights... imagine the car in front brake hard to avoid collision with a kid and the following drivers behind took a few extra milliseconds to think "what the heck does those blue lights means?" before realising it's all too late and you end up with a serious accident.

Keep the neons for the autosalon, mate.

Check page 4 of the doc attached.

I don't remember the details clearly enough, but a law was passed around 1914 making it illegal for any "civilian carriage" to have a front facing red light.

The red light was restricted to First Aid and/or Police "carriages".

Like I said, it was about 10years ago I was told but I believe that this is the general jist...

As an aside... Why the F*CK would you put ghey neon on any car? (Fully sick Fast an Furious mate!)..... lame

* Personal opinion my not be shared by others *

lic_drivesafebook_part5.pdf

Edited November 24, 2008 by iamhe77

[LEANBAC]

try an stay away from neons..... an cd's hanging from your rear view mirror

[(B1) MR_fanny]

I would never use them while driving. I just want them for show when I'm parked. I guess unless a cop checked inside my engine they wouldn't know I had neons in there.

since your eng is mid you could probably get away with it if its red so it looks like a brake light.

[Coolduck_69]

Yea thanks guys for all the postive and NEGATIVE feedback, thought I just ask as i didnt know and thought people wuld have a better idea and experience of this, and no i am not here to whinge, so mayb u shuld get over it. as i am only asking for advice and what other experience people had been thru. geee anyone will have a go at you these days.

[DogKnight]

From what i've been informed on a few occasions by police when asking about the matter.

Neons are okay under these conditions:

1) They are not blue/red/white outside the car. This is because they are the same colours as emergency services.

2) They can't pulse. Similar to above.

3) The tube/light itself can't be visible outside the car. EG: You can have a neon under the car, but can't be so close to the edge that its viewable. You should only be able to see the light from it, not the actual tube itself.

4) It can't be distracting to other motorists. Now from what I can gather, this is up to police discretion. You can have neon's, but obviously you cant have so many that your whole car glows like a las vegas strip club. When talking to the police they have informed one or two under the car or a couple in the drivers and passenger footwell is fine. Just don't try make your car a christmas tree.

This has been from my experience from talking to a few cops. Of course when not driving you can have as many on as you like, but while driving its a lot more restricted.

[R31Nismoid]

and no i am not here to whinge

ORLY?

omg these cops were so sad,

i said i was once told i could have neons in my car and his reply was they officer may not have must experience as me, and didnt know. thats bs!

omg cops will pick on u for anything.

see these cops will pik on whatever.

Maybe I have a different view of words to you, aside from the spelling part