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NEW-TIMER

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Hi everyone. I'm new to the forum and i'm quite excited with my recent purchase of a damaged series 1 1995 model R33 GTS-T.

The car has quite low k's with minor damages (the bonnet being one of the damaged parts), I thought i'll buy the carbon fibre bonnet straight away. However, I'm not sure if a carbon fibre bonnet will fail on the inspection prior to the registration of the vehicle?

If anyone has personal experiences regarding this matter and could let me know asap, it would be much appreciated. Even contacts to purchasing a carbon fibre bonnet would be great too! I'm in the Brisbane area.

P.S I have used the search button but nothing was clear with past posts (in hope I wouldn't get flamed)

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Col-GTSX Grand Master

Col-GTSX

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contact "Custom carbon"

You need to buy a bonnet that has been crash tested and has DOT approval, mets all Aussie standards etc...

In short your looking at a fairly expensive bonnet to do it legally, also even if 100% above board its still cop bait...

Col-GTSX Grand Master

Col-GTSX

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Honestly, just buy a stock bonnet...

The cost involved to do it right is huge... Not to mention the attention you will get from the popo...

If your after a weight reduction, the bonnets dont save you much (dollars to performance increase)...

Your better off fitting a pfc and making an extra 10hp to compensate for the weight...

Sammy34 Community Regular

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Honestly, just buy a stock bonnet...

The cost involved to do it right is huge... Not to mention the attention you will get from the popo...

If your after a weight reduction, the bonnets dont save you much (dollars to performance increase)...

Your better off fitting a pfc and making an extra 10hp to compensate for the weight...

From my understanding for a carbon fibre bonnet to be legal in QLD it needs to be fitted to or with some form of steel frame at the front point of the car to help prevent splintering in accidents and also to secure the bonnet to the car using the standard bonnet clips.

(This is only from what I have herd and my understanding)

NSM033 Enthusiast

NSM033

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from what i've heard NO carbon fibre bonnet is legal but apparently fibreglass ones are legal not sure why i guess coz carbon fibre shatters best bet would be a stock one they're surprisingly light aswell try if your on the northside try "all Jap"at virginia or i think there's one at slacks creek. good luck with it anyways

babyskyline Grand Master

babyskyline

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There are no legal carbon fibre bonnets at all as far as i am aware. The only thing close to it is the blits fibre glass bonnets.

From the sounds of it your more so after the bling bling look at me aspect of it but honestly its not worth it. When you get pulled over, and you will, you will get a defect notice, a fine and lose points on your license too. Then you will have to fork out to get a standard bonnet anyway. Your better off just buying a standard one to begin with.

PSI Parts Veteran

PSI Parts

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Hi Guys,

My name is Shane and I'm the General Manager of PSI Parts (www.psiparts.com.au).

I will try to clear up a few mis-conceptions about frp and carbon fibre hoods.

When you replace the bonnet with either of the above materials the whole vehicle needs to be complied. There is NO such thing as an ADR approved bonnet, despite what some people claim. This is because there is no set ruling for after market hoods Australia wide.

We sell a wide variety of carbon fibre and frp hoods and trunks and our customers have not reported any trouble with the police. I have had numerous accounts from customers of how they were given a Defect Notice for multiple things but the carbon bonnet and boots were ignored. This is because there is NO LAW against them, having set that, there is no law stating they are legal as well. They lye in the grey area of the law. The law does however state that if you change any panels forward of the firewall you need a Compliance Certificate. We have contact many state and territory road authorities and have not been able to get a clear statement on what we can do to make them legal.

Also to clear up a few rumours going around about carbon fibre, it DOES NOT shatter and cut peoples heads and arms off. It is a very strong and stable material and in fact will hold up very well in the case of an accident because of the construction method. I believe these come about from people who know very little about the material and its properties. After all they do make Formula 1 monocoques from carbon fibre which need to withstand 300+ Km/h impacts with out killing the driver.

If anyone has any questions I will be glad to try and answer them.

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grex32

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Hi Guys,

My name is Shane and I'm the General Manager of PSI Parts (www.psiparts.com.au).

I will try to clear up a few mis-conceptions about frp and carbon fibre hoods.

When you replace the bonnet with either of the above materials the whole vehicle needs to be complied. There is NO such thing as an ADR approved bonnet, despite what some people claim. This is because there is no set ruling for after market hoods Australia wide.

We sell a wide variety of carbon fibre and frp hoods and trunks and our customers have not reported any trouble with the police. I have had numerous accounts from customers of how they were given a Defect Notice for multiple things but the carbon bonnet and boots were ignored. This is because there is NO LAW against them, having set that, there is no law stating they are legal as well. They lye in the grey area of the law. The law does however state that if you change any panels forward of the firewall you need a Compliance Certificate. We have contact many state and territory road authorities and have not been able to get a clear statement on what we can do to make them legal.

Also to clear up a few rumours going around about carbon fibre, it DOES NOT shatter and cut peoples heads and arms off. It is a very strong and stable material and in fact will hold up very well in the case of an accident because of the construction method. I believe these come about from people who know very little about the material and its properties. After all they do make Formula 1 monocoques from carbon fibre which need to withstand 300+ Km/h impacts with out killing the driver.

If anyone has any questions I will be glad to try and answer them.

hey mate ive had many defects ova this issue

one being the vents facing backwards,the next being the shatter properties and then not being adr crash tested three cops three outcomes this really pisses me off cause as you know every defect canary one point.i would love this issue clarified as wot needs to be done till then still running with a carbon ova fibreglass vented bonnet.

cheers

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hey mate ive had many defects ova this issue

one being the vents facing backwards,the next being the shatter properties and then not being adr crash tested three cops three outcomes this really pisses me off cause as you know every defect canary one point.i would love this issue clarified as wot needs to be done till then still running with a carbon ova fibreglass vented bonnet.

cheers

The direction of the vents shouldnt matter, it is more about the size, location and angle of them. This is for pedestrian safety. I'll dig up the diagrams and rulings i have somewhere to see if we can make any sense of it..

Can you please confirm what state you are in? I'm interested to know about the demerit points for having a defective vehicle??

Question: any of your bonnets being used in Queensland? defect laws are different all over the place.

Yes we have sold some hoods into QLD. Yes they are different from state to state which is the most ridiculous thing.

Shane

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NoFX_Hardcore

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QLD defect notice is 1 demerit point and a fine. Used to be $75 but it has gone up.

Any aftermarket bonnet or panel on a car is illegal in QLD if it does not have a ADR Approval type certificate. I believe they do need to undergo crash testing etc to be compliant. Carbon fibre ones just seem easier to spot by police, therefore they are targeted.

There is, however, only one bonnet that is legal which is by the company called BLITS. They are in Southport, Gold Coast somewhere if I'm not mistaken. But as stated they only make fibreglass ones at this stage.

Only way to make your bonnet legal is to have it crash tested and approved.

Having said that, a carbon fibre bonnet won't pass a roadworthy certificate inspection either.

Noy Experienced

Noy

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Custom Carbon is no more, the boss got a sweet contract deal from an overseas company.

Biggest load of crap i've ever heard......

the Owner of Custom Carbon done a runner to another fibreglass company in brisbane.. along with alot of peoples money and more than 12k of mine

If anyone wants to try get there money back they can contact me and i can pass on some details that can help...

cheers Noy

Col-GTSX Grand Master

Col-GTSX

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NOY, how are ya mate... :D

Can you please shed some light on carbon facts/fiction???

I had an understanding which I think you were telling me, but there seems to be a few stories on here about facts of carbon...

Care to share a little???

Noy Experienced

Noy

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NOY, how are ya mate... :)

Can you please shed some light on carbon facts/fiction???

I had an understanding which I think you were telling me, but there seems to be a few stories on here about facts of carbon...

Care to share a little???

Hey Col i'm good mate, after being out of australia most of last year.. i'm finaly back

well i can offer a few things that i know for QLD.. i have only spoken with police officers here in QLD so other states may have other more defined laws...

Carbon Fibre/Fibreglass bonnets are illegal unless they have an engineers certificate.. there is many places they can be engineered but the cost is ridiculous.

you would need to provide all manufacturing processes, engineering reports and so much other paperwork i wont go into and also a number of samples that need a whole variety of tests done to them..

As for company's saying they can provide ADR approval certificates with there products i just laugh, but so can anyone with a computer... i can print out a story with lots of important looking words that only an engineer would understand...

With Carbon Fibre IT DOES shatter just like fibreglass, people saying it would cut a pedestrian in half etc etc it could, but until i see it i say stop watching too many horror movies.

About bonnets with reverse facing vents, the police just think of the worst.. if you have something fail under the bonnet and it squirts oil or fluid on your windscreen it could cause an accident.

Hope this clears some things up, if you have any other questions just reply here or send me a PM and i'll do my best to answer then asap

cheers Noy

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