Air Cleaners In Boost Lines

[ClutchBurndout-:(]

hi guys, is it absolutely vital to have air cleaners in boost lines? i installed an EBC yesterday and i tried everywhere and no one even knew what the air cleaners are, so therefore i didnt put any, anywhere in the lines, the manual for the EBC said i needed one on all 3 lines.

is this absolutely nessisary? if so, does anyone know where to get the air cleaner adapters?

cheers

[mad082]

i've never heard of air cleaners in vacuum lines......

i would be worried if you needed them, because dirt in vaccum lines = dirt in motor which = damage. it also means main air filter isn't doing what it's supposed to

you are sure you aren't confused with the air filters for breather hoses?

[vidospace]

I questioned this myself, but still installed the line filters (though they are dirty). Even HKS Australia dont sell them though :-(

[MrStabby]

does anyone know where to get the air cleaner adapters?

+1 I need to know this - i had one split in two (might have been when my rear turbo let go) and want to replace it.

[gotRICE?]

http://www.optionsauto.com/prodinfo.asp?nu...=HKS-4599-RA016

When i installed my Apexi boost gauge it said to install the filter in the line before the sender, but it didnt come with one. I think its a USA thing.

Edited June 22, 2009 by gotRICE?

[ClutchBurndout-:(]

well it might be a worst case scenario thing that they choose to cover.

but all 3 had to be within 15 cm of the EBC unic in the engine bay.

[gotRICE?]

If you think about it, you generally take a boost reading post turbo correct? Or from the manifold, so in theory there could be a bit of oil vapors from blowby/turbo seals or whatever floating around. Potentially clogging senders? But agree'd, worst case scenario.

[lineskee 33]

I always thought it was to catch any moisture/ vapour in the lines to avoid damaging any of the electrical/mechanical parts inside the boost controller. When you compare this to an Air compressor, Painters usually have a moisture catch in the lines so they dont get any water sprayed out with the paint. as Air compressors usually catch a lot of moisture. Thats how i look at it.

[Beer Baron]

yes they are there to protect the solenoid, the map sensor or any gauge sensor. they are a good idea. I wouldn't say they are essential but if you can get some and fit them then by all means do it. they ensure only clean air gets to your device. just watch they don't get blocked or split/leak. it does happen.

[Johnny]

After installing my HKS evc that has the filters, i woudl say they are definitely nessasary as over a period of 7months they have accumulated a small amount of oil which can possibly throw off accurate boost readings inhibiting proper/optimal boost control.

I would really like to find out where they are sold and replace them every year or so.

[ClutchBurndout-:(]

After installing my HKS evc that has the filters, i woudl say they are definitely nessasary as over a period of 7months they have accumulated a small amount of oil which can possibly throw off accurate boost readings inhibiting proper/optimal boost control.

I would really like to find out where they are sold and replace them every year or so.

ditto +1

[allthewaytotheskyline]

go to "repco" or "autobahn" etc and buy small vacuum filters they are like $2.00 each and work exactly the same

and fit right in.

goodluck champ.

[ClutchBurndout-:(]

i asked at autobarn, but i think i had a noob guy talking to me. guess ill try again

does anyone know if the spray gun filters work the same?

[lineskee 33]

they would work the same, but you wouldnt be fitting such a part to a car. They are a lot bigger and use air compressor fittings to connect up.

[Peter]

Hi!

I've been looking for 4mm vacuum/boost line filters too for ages and have had no luck in finding them in Australia! I bought a Profec B-II second hand and it said to install the filter prior to the control unit in cabin, but the guy I bought it off didn't send it to me....

The filter would assist in stopping any blow-by not already caught by the catch can etc.

I have tried the following without success...(I'm in WA)

-Supacheap

-Malz

-Autopro

-Repco

-Rocket Industries

-C-Red Tuning

-Hyperdrive

-WTF Auto

-Coventry's

-CMP

-X-Speed (said they would order it in for me - but it's been nearly four weeks now!)

-Hobby shops

-Pet shops (aqaurium filters)

-Paint shops

-Bunnings

etc.

Only place I found is US based

http://shop.edoperformance.com/hks-mini-va...4mm-p-5201.html

with postage it becomes pricey - help would be appreciated...!

Pete

[gotRICE?]

Hi!

I've been looking for 4mm vacuum/boost line filters too for ages and have had no luck in finding them in Australia! I bought a Profec B-II second hand and it said to install the filter prior to the control unit in cabin, but the guy I bought it off didn't send it to me....

The filter would assist in stopping any blow-by not already caught by the catch can etc.

I have tried the following without success...(I'm in WA)

-Supacheap

-Malz

-Autopro

-Repco

-Rocket Industries

-C-Red Tuning

-Hyperdrive

-WTF Auto

-Coventry's

-CMP

-X-Speed (said they would order it in for me - but it's been nearly four weeks now!)

-Hobby shops

-Pet shops (aqaurium filters)

-Paint shops

-Bunnings

etc.

Only place I found is US based

http://shop.edoperformance.com/hks-mini-va...4mm-p-5201.html

with postage it becomes pricey - help would be appreciated...!

Pete

I posted that link a few posts up.. EDIT: Similar link.. $2USD cheaper in mine

Lucky me, im in the USA Im going to get a couple for myself when i go back to NZ

Edited June 22, 2009 by gotRICE?

[Beer Baron]

guys if you want I can sell you some. I buy them from japan direct though. trust ones or HKS ones. both come in either 4mm or 6mm. they are not expensive for a small part but buy the time I order and post them etc I'd say HKS ones about $20 and trust ones about $15 each. unless you buy a couple then it would be cheaper.

I will say one thing. the genuine trust and HKS ones are actually made to handle both vacuum and boost conditions. I've seen heaps of the cheap non genuine ones crack/split and just generally fail as they are piss weak. even the genuine ones can go hard/brittle over time but they are miles better.

edit: yeah trust ones $14 for 4mm and $16 for 6mm and HKS ones are $20 for either 4mm or 6mm. not cheap, but it's an option if you can't find any locally.

[ClutchBurndout-:(]

ok, well I have 1 lol, is there a best line to put it in? what boost line would be the best to put it in on the ebc unit? Aka which would catch more crap?

[lineskee 33]

I would be investing in a decent quality Air filter if anything. The only other possible worry would be having blowby/oil elements travelling through the lines. and to help reduce possible elements the the blowby would just to move the blowby lines being returned to the intake to somewhere else like a catch can.

But if everyone is so interested in the inline filters, would it be a good idea to look into maybe organising a group buy for these so that we can stock up on these little puppies.

[Peter]

Hey Mate,

Sorry for the delay in replying....

I'm keen on getting two of the 4mm Trust ones - one to use and one as a spare....

So, how do we make this happen?

Thanks,

Pete

guys if you want I can sell you some. I buy them from japan direct though. trust ones or HKS ones. both come in either 4mm or 6mm. they are not expensive for a small part but buy the time I order and post them etc I'd say HKS ones about $20 and trust ones about $15 each. unless you buy a couple then it would be cheaper.

I will say one thing. the genuine trust and HKS ones are actually made to handle both vacuum and boost conditions. I've seen heaps of the cheap non genuine ones crack/split and just generally fail as they are piss weak. even the genuine ones can go hard/brittle over time but they are miles better.

edit: yeah trust ones $14 for 4mm and $16 for 6mm and HKS ones are $20 for either 4mm or 6mm. not cheap, but it's an option if you can't find any locally.