Split From Other Topic. Track Day Discussion

[Marco-R34GTT]

No I agree, but cams is a one off, per annum cost. Isn't that right? If so, doesn't make it so bad..

If people can afford to run/own/upgrade a Skyline be it an R34, 33, 32 GTR, GTT/Gtst or whatever other Skyline they own, if the FMIC, ECU, tires and the fully sick HKS SSQV can be afforded, then I see no justification for people saying they can't afford a $260 layout for what is basically, an oppotunity to drive fast, to push you and your car to whatever limitations the car/driver has, and to do so, safely, legally and with minimal risk to themselves and others.. If people say they can't afford it (I mean if money's tight at the time, then so be it), but if you can NEVER afford then, but think they are in better hands running the risk of killing themselves, another or being smacked with a hoon charge.. I just wont accept it, it is hypocracy and a general sense of tight-arseness in its worse form, one that does no one any favours.. Such lack of good judgement and prudence is detrimental to us as a whole, it places car clubs in absolute jepardy. It gives us all a bad name with which the media, police and the government as a whole, uses to fulfil their own means and ends. We become but pawns in the political machinations of others, that is what we've been reduced to, and I find that distressing, annoying and terribly undemocratic..

[Dsturbd]

I did a collie track day yesterday . Cost was $120 for the day with sausage sizzle included , went through a tank of fuel and two 17" Toyos on the burnout pad ( optional extra ) . I had enough driving by 2 in the afternoon and done 50 odd laps for the day

[R DIRTY 3]

I did a collie track day yesterday . Cost was $120 for the day with sausage sizzle included , went through a tank of fuel and two 17" Toyos on the burnout pad ( optional extra ) . I had enough driving by 2 in the afternoon and done 50 odd laps for the day

Thats good value. Shame it was collie and not Perth.

Having said that, i will get there one day when i get the time.

Bart you have a car trailer available to borrow if the zip ties on the race car fail and it breask down?

[Dsturbd]

Shame it was collie and not Perth.

Bart you have a car trailer available to borrow if the zip ties on the race car fail and it breask down?

Wrong attitude there Bard , 30 cars there and one was myself and a local kid from Evo forum so most people will travel to do it in a safe enviroment ...

Blaise Paris orginised it and was on hand to intstruct along with Franz and alot of guys took advantage of it ..

Brad orginise 1 for wannaroo then and i will come along

Edited July 26, 2009 by Dsturbd

[GTS-t VSPEC]

I'm not phased about travelling to Collie for a day of racing, and I have the most unreliable car in the world

[Dsturbd]

I'm not phased about travelling to Collie for a day of racing, and I have the most unreliable car in the world

9th August is club day , come down have a drive .. my patrol will be there with trailer ready

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Bart, I would, but same day as the SAUWA cruise to Bunno

[djr81]

As Dan mentioned we are, but you'll need to realise that it isn't as cheap as doing an AHG day.

CAMS License $100

Event Cost ~ $165

So as you can see it would be nowhere as cheap as an AHG driver day. This isn't meant to put anyone off, but if we are to organise an event, you'll need to understand it may cost you close to $300 if you don't already have a CAMS license. To some this isn't alot of money, to others it is.

For a track car light equals cheap. Skylines are not light for a track car.

Typically I would add to the following list.

Fuel $100 or more depending on where you go & how many laps you do.

Tyre wear: $200 Depends largely on the prevailing weather, how hard you go & what type of tyre you have. Bear in mind road tyres are no cheaper to run on the track than proper track tyres.

Brake wear: $100 (pad wear, fluid, rotor wear)

Oil: Change it however often you like but a change will be $100 or thereabouts. Factor in whatever of that you like.

General wear & tear: You will break stuff and/or wear it out. Don't be surprised when this happens.

It is hard to be adament about what it may cost you. I have seen people turn up, twat about 10 seconds off the pace & go home with a car than looks brand new. On the other hand if you go hard with a car that is not set up quite right (& it wont be unless you have spent alot of time/money doing so) you can trash tyres/brakes etc in pretty short order.

At then end of the day if you want cheap track time get a light car. It used to be the Ford Escort but lately it appears the Honda Civic is the thing to run.

[skyhigh r33]

Tracks dont help with speeding on public roads. I dont know what its like at collie track, but when kwinanna motor plex finishes for the night on wednesdays people that are leaving the track sit on 150kph+ on anktel rd and kwinanna fwy, i see it every time i go.

[bnr#@]

Just read through all that and don't understand why people think they have to have a cams licence to go to barbs?

If you don't have one just rock up to a test and tune day and your day fee will be around $165

If you do have a cams licence (which costs bugger all really) just rock up and the fee is $50-$60

For that you get pretty much a full day of going mad at a proper race track, thats good value as I see it.

Sure, there is more wear and tear at the track then normal driving but its not really that bad as long as you are only doing a few fast laps at a time and not trying to do

le mans.

[Nic_A31]

I agree on the "put money aside and do it properly" thing, but there are motoring enthusiasts on low wages, like apprentices, that can't afford to pay that kind of money on top of their vehicle and personal expenses. Younger people will always make their own fun, not just with cars. By the time they're on good wages and can afford to do it legally, they've grown out of that stage.

Thats why I think the cost of this sport needs attention.

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Does Collie require CAMS?

and can you take passengers at Collie?

I know Barbs don't allow it, but I've heard Collie is pretty laid back ??

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Tracks dont help with speeding on public roads. I dont know what its like at collie track, but when kwinanna motor plex finishes for the night on wednesdays people that are leaving the track sit on 150kph+ on anktel rd and kwinanna fwy, i see it every time i go.

+1, if the cops arent on the roundabout with a handheld, those roads can get pretty messy sometimes.

Everyone is hell pumped up from watching burnouts and then "OK, 10 o'clock, f**k off now".

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Ok, Ive created a thread which is stickied in the WA Section, it contains info on how to get into motorsport. Hopefully you'll find it useful, let me know if there is anything that needs adding.

Cheers

Paul

[djr81]

Ok, Ive created a thread which is stickied in the WA Section, it contains info on how to get into motorsport. Hopefully you'll find it useful, let me know if there is anything that needs adding.

Cheers

Paul

If you go to the cams website www.cams.com.au & then following through to the club zone you can find a list of all the cams affiliated clubs & also regularly upgated lists of all the cams sanctioned events on in Australia.

http://www.cams.com.au/Sport/Club%20Zone/C...e=WA&page=1

http://www.cams.com.au/Sport/Events/Event%20Calendar.aspx

http://www.cams.com.au/Sport/Events/Event%...;to=&page=1

[GTS-t VSPEC]

If you go to the cams website www.cams.com.au & then following through to the club zone you can find a list of all the cams affiliated clubs & also regularly upgated lists of all the cams sanctioned events on in Australia.

http://www.cams.com.au/Sport/Club%20Zone/C...e=WA&page=1

http://www.cams.com.au/Sport/Events/Event%20Calendar.aspx

http://www.cams.com.au/Sport/Events/Event%...;to=&page=1

Ok, will update the thread with that info