Stagea On Vic P's. Opinions Wanted....

[Nickz0r!]

Hey guys,

I am just posting to get some opinions on this from owners of stageas or people in the know.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/La...84#entry4783284

I get my P's next month and for I am looking at getting something similar to this or if it isn't sold, possibly this one.

Would this be a good choice as a first car if it is N/A? If it isn't N/A would it be worth buying and taking the turbo out? How are they on fuel? How much would it cost to get the turbo taken out and then the work done to make it run properly without it?

Anyway, any opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks alot.

[M I K E]

you're lucky you didn't post this on another forum or you'd be flamed something chronic

the question of de-charging a factory turbo motor gets asked alot, and in short, the response is don't bother. the compression ratios aren't set up to run naturally aspirated and would be about as powerful as an 1800kg excel

as for fuel consumption, it depends how heavy your right foot is, they generally aren't fantastic though

[[200]]

You cannot take the turbocharger out.

Engine number / chassis number will bring up flags that it is a turbocharged model REGARDLESS if you've taken it off. They're registered / stamped as a turbo model for a reason.

There are no loop holes or ways around it so you will have to buy a naturally aspirated model.

[Nickz0r!]

Damn. I'm tempted to buy it and just chuck the volvo badges on and try be sneaky and try get away with it.

I spose the question now is, who wants to sell me a N/A, manual Stagea haha.

[[[d a n n y]]]

my suggestion is

get a cheap car to as your first car as you willl most likely crash or damage it

learn how to drive

get off your P's and then get a turbo charged car

[QWK32]

my suggestion is

get a cheap car to as your first car as you willl most likely crash or damage it

learn how to drive

get off your P's and then get a turbo charged car

[KiwiRS4T]

That Stagea will not be suitable because

1. It is modified

2. it has a turbo

3. It has better than 125kw per tonne (just)

I think the cops will go by the plate anyway (RB25DET) and it won't help you to remove the turbo (but you could check).

If you did remove the turbo it wouldn't even go as well as a n/a neo Stagea and would probably use even more gas than they do already!

PS if you can find one the late S1 n/a Stagea has the neo engine ( I had one) and they are almost as quick as a stock S1 turbo. They are about $3000 in NZ but I think they are quite rare in Aus.

Go with QWK32's suggestion - get a cheap to buy, run and insure car and save up for a better car when you are qualified.

[horrace]

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there was an n/a one for sale like a week ago someone posted the link i cant find it now, but it was the first one iv ever seen in aus (not saying that means much though lol)

[QWK32]

Go with QWK32's suggestion - get a cheap to buy, run and insure car and save up for a better car when you are qualified.

not my suggestion, it was Danny's lol. but still it would be the best option for you Nickz0r!

[RBPOWA-(TJ)]

my suggestion is

get a cheap car to as your first car as you willl most likely crash or damage it

learn how to drive

get off your P's and then get a turbo charged car

in the end its your choice, but many here speak from experience.

i wanted a r32 gtr when i got my p's, but being new to the driving world and never driven a turbo, just a RWD NA, i would of treated it the same and be wrapped around a tree.

but the chance of cops pulling you up in a 'stock looking' stagea is rare, i've driven through blitz nights and booze bus's, even been stalked by cops, i guess they just dont bother.

then again there always has to be some one unlucky out there. . . ..

[Xmetal]

my suggestion is

get a cheap car to as your first car as you willl most likely crash or damage it

learn how to drive

get off your P's and then get a turbo charged car

x2.

You're fresh off you're L's and probably pissing straight testosterone. Wait a few years before buying a Turbo car.

[Nickz0r!]

Don't get me wrong guys. I'd be quite happy with an N/A car. I'm not after something turbo, it's just that I was hoping to find a N/A Stagea which I don't think the one I mentioned is.

[[[d a n n y]]]

well....

n/a stagea...

quite rare

i guess it'll work out well

get a n/a stagea get off your P's

RB26DETT

and your set

[BensDR30]

x3 on the 'try a different approach' theory.

But NA Stagea = PM35 350RX FTW

But seriously, I think you'll be stuck with something much less gracious regarless of your good intentions. If you're after a wagon, and Nissan, then a nice S3 R31 would be a reasonable thing (and less than $5k). I'm not trying to force you into the stereotype of P-plate R31 owners, but there you go!

FWIW, I bought my 240Z when I was 19 (first car). By the time I was 21, it was running a custom EFI L24 Turbo and produced a little over 200% factory kW at the rear wheels... I haven't really ever bent it (curbed it once, trashing a control arm & slightly creasing a guard), but all my mates did something, and it wasn't always their fault. You're just a magnet for shit-happening at that age!

[Nickz0r!]

well....

n/a stagea...

quite rare

i guess it'll work out well

get a n/a stagea get off your P's

RB26DETT

and your set

Find me one.

x3 on the 'try a different approach' theory.

But NA Stagea = PM35 350RX FTW

But seriously, I think you'll be stuck with something much less gracious regarless of your good intentions. If you're after a wagon, and Nissan, then a nice S3 R31 would be a reasonable thing (and less than $5k). I'm not trying to force you into the stereotype of P-plate R31 owners, but there you go!

FWIW, I bought my 240Z when I was 19 (first car). By the time I was 21, it was running a custom EFI L24 Turbo and produced a little over 200% factory kW at the rear wheels... I haven't really ever bent it (curbed it once, trashing a control arm & slightly creasing a guard), but all my mates did something, and it wasn't always their fault. You're just a magnet for shit-happening at that age!

It's not that I'm after a wagon so much. It's just that the stagea I posted really grabbed my attention and I really liked it.

But I've been looking at R31's, and I've come across only a couple that look in good condition that don't need alot of work. :\

[GoldZilla]

Hmmm, as far as I knew, N/A Stageas were ineligible for import approval anyway (until the atmo M35's finally gain complaince), so finding one would be extremely difficult - it'd probably be a private individual import. And having a C34 with an atmo RB25 trying to push around ~1600kg's of car is not my idea of a worthwhile buy, even if it was just to cruise around. They're heavy enough on fuel as it is, and having to push it to keep it even mildly moving along is not going to help lower its fuel use.

If you have been looking at R31s, you DO have to remember to take into account that they are between 20-25 years old now...

[Nickz0r!]

Hmmm, as far as I knew, N/A Stageas were ineligible for import approval anyway (until the atmo M35's finally gain complaince), so finding one would be extremely difficult - it'd probably be a private individual import. And having a C34 with an atmo RB25 trying to push around ~1600kg's of car is not my idea of a worthwhile buy, even if it was just to cruise around. They're heavy enough on fuel as it is, and having to push it to keep it even mildly moving along is not going to help lower its fuel use.

If you have been looking at R31s, you DO have to remember to take into account that they are between 20-25 years old now...

Yeah, I think I might just have to give up on the idea.

And like I said in the post above yours, it's hard to find ones without problems and don't need a lot of work and maintenance.

Back to the drawing board.

[rb26stagea]

The n/a stag was listed on carsales... I remember it was a dark green one: if you look for it, you'll probably find it.

Also, if you're after something a little different, and fun to drive, there was an atmo Mitsubishi Legnum for sale on carsales when I was looking a few weeks ago: pretty sure it was manual too. A stocko Legnum will obliterate a stocko stag in the handling department (I had a bog stock twin turbo Leggy, and it was one of the best handling cars I have ever driven), so it may be an option if it's still available?? Worth a look, at any rate. I believe this one was a private import as well, so you're not likely to see another one any time soon...

Just a suggestion.

[FelixTRX]

There was a dark green NA one in QLD not that long ago for about $5k....look on there.

[Nickz0r!]

The n/a stag was listed on carsales... I remember it was a dark green one: if you look for it, you'll probably find it.

Also, if you're after something a little different, and fun to drive, there was an atmo Mitsubishi Legnum for sale on carsales when I was looking a few weeks ago: pretty sure it was manual too. A stocko Legnum will obliterate a stocko stag in the handling department (I had a bog stock twin turbo Leggy, and it was one of the best handling cars I have ever driven), so it may be an option if it's still available?? Worth a look, at any rate. I believe this one was a private import as well, so you're not likely to see another one any time soon...

Just a suggestion.

There was a dark green NA one in QLD not that long ago for about $5k....look on there.

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/privat...5&silo=1011

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/privat...5&silo=1011

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/privat...5&silo=1011

It must be gone. These are the only 3 green stageas on carsales, all of which are turbo.

I think I'll just be looking for something else.

Thanks guys.