Does Just Cars Insurance Allow You To Have Viper Alarms?

[Nick.]

Hey, I was just wondering if you guys would know if Just cars would allow Viper alarms, because they have all black wires... Thought id just ask b4 i called them up

Thanks, Nick.

[Basti]

black wires are desirable mate. you dont want the theif to see coloured wires and immediately know your alarm and which wire is best to cut.

[Nick.]

black wires are desirable mate. you dont want the theif to see coloured wires and immediately know your alarm and which wire is best to cut.

Thats what i thought, but the alarm dude said i better check.

[danielr34]

Hi, its not just about black wires, it also has to have a minimum of 2 built in immobiliser circuits and passive arming immobilisers, some insurers stipulate 3 immobiliser sircuits, the remotes need to be code hopping and the actual alarm module needs to have been put through the Australian Standards Testing which costs the alarm manufacturer about $18000 to get the product tested.

I have not know of any Viper alarm or any Directed Electronics brands to be Australian Standards.

Cheers

[Nick.]

Hi, its not just about black wires, it also has to have a minimum of 2 built in immobiliser circuits and passive arming immobilisers, some insurers stipulate 3 immobiliser sircuits, the remotes need to be code hopping and the actual alarm module needs to have been put through the Australian Standards Testing which costs the alarm manufacturer about $18000 to get the product tested.

I have not know of any Viper alarm or any Directed Electronics brands to be Australian Standards.

Cheers

So thats a no go?

[BstewyR33]

i had my 1st car with justcar insurance, and it had a viper alarm installed in it, and they said it was fine.

[Carbon 34]

Viper alarms with black wires are fine, Just cars is ok with them if they provide enough points of protection?

I actually prefer Directed brands alarms due to the dependability of them. and warranty if installed by a authorized installer.

IMO ...black wires are pointless , if the alarm is installed right.. a crim wont get into the car and find the right wires anyhow , soldered and taped into the harness like factory wires? but not many installers will go through that amount of detail to hide a car alarm. most just slap them in and zip tie the wires up. which is why they use black wires now!!

best to stop the crim before he gets in the car ??? common sense is the best medicine. dont put items of easy theft in the car in plain view. or park in a shonky spot ?

but like anything, if a real pro crim wants your car, consider it gone... even with GPS tracking devices!!!

[UnCo]

Straight from my two friends who work at JCI

"Just Australian standard which is generally 2point and black wire."

[Chris Rogers]

best to call your insurance company on that one. you are going to get mixed opinions here.

sapphire and daniel R34 have quite valid points and to be honest - find an installer that gives a shit about his job. 99% of them don't!

if you feel like a bit of travel I can set you up with one that does my work in boronia.

[Chris Rogers]

Hi, its not just about black wires, it also has to have a minimum of 2 built in immobiliser circuits and passive arming immobilisers, some insurers stipulate 3 immobiliser sircuits, the remotes need to be code hopping and the actual alarm module needs to have been put through the Australian Standards Testing which costs the alarm manufacturer about $18000 to get the product tested.

I have not know of any Viper alarm or any Directed Electronics brands to be Australian Standards.

Cheers

last I spoke to them they were working on one. the 460/480xv comes close but needs an installer worthy enough to fit it properly.

see also clifford but the price tag will scare a lot of people off.

[Nick.]

Straight from my two friends who work at JCI

"Just Australian standard which is generally 2point and black wire."

called them up any way, and its okay if it has immobilisers. so its all good

[_Ryan_]

best to call your insurance company on that one. you are going to get mixed opinions here.

sapphire and daniel R34 have quite valid points and to be honest - find an installer that gives a shit about his job. 99% of them don't!

if you feel like a bit of travel I can set you up with one that does my work in boronia.

I second this motion.

Mongoose or Cyclops, i have used both happily, friends have had issues with their Vipers, but Cyclops remotes aren't as high quality.

Go to Boronia.

[eSKiMo]

Hey, I was just wondering if you guys would know if Just cars would allow Viper alarms, because they have all black wires... Thought id just ask b4 i called them up

Thanks, Nick.

i know this thread is getting a bit old now but thought this information straight from the Just Car Insurance website may still be useful to some people:

Does my car require an immobiliser?

When obtaining a quote either over the phone or via the internet, you will be informed as to whether an immobiliser is required to be fitted to your car. If so, it will need to meet the Australian Standards for immobilisers (AS 4601:1999). You can obtain further information about Australian Standard immobilisers from http://www.carsafe.com.au

Question still not answered? See below or please ask a Just Car Insurance operator.

I might also ad that there is no reason you can just get an approved Australian Standards immobiliser installed under the "Immobilise Now!" program and then go and install a much nicer viper alarm system for all the bells and whistles...

If you go for an immobiliser with a 'transponder' tag on your keyring then you wont even notice its there and you can still use an alarm with nice remotes and stuff to open, close, chirp, alarm, boot release, wind up windows, lcd screen, whatever you like!!

[skins]

I am insured with just cars and they said that as long as you have a australian standard engine imobiliser installed it doesnt matter what type of alarm you have fitted.

F_ck thats a long sentence.

So now I have two alarms on my car

[MSTRshenanigans]

Straight from my two friends who work at JCI

"Just Australian standard which is generally 2point and black wire."

I wouldn't trust most staff that you talk to on the phone(teleclaims/telesales). Only the processing/product/underwriting depts

The PDS for JCI states it needs to be to OZ standard, which pretty much every Suncorp brands' PDS states

The Aust standard straight from basic info thread:

What does a 'Standards approved' immobiliser have?

Under the Australian/New Zealand Standard for Vehicle Immobilisers (AS/NZS 4601:1999, amended in 2003), an immobiliser should have:

- Automatic immobilisation within 40 seconds of ignition switch-off

- Two independent points of immobilisation

- Connections enclosed in security housing

- All black security wiring

- Flashing dashboard LED when system is armed

- Secure owner PIN override

[synaptix]

called them up any way, and its okay if it has immobilisers. so its all good

Where abouts in boronia is the installer? The last few alarm/ Central locking ive had installed was from the 'shoot me, i hate my job' crowd and it showed.

[Chris Rogers]

stylyn car audio - dorset rd. see adam.