Toyo 888 20 Inch

[handbrake]

Has anyone heard whether there has been any improvement since their previous disastrous pre release review which compared them against the stock dunlops?

anyone know of a local supplier?

GT-RR has them at $1600 US a set excluding shipping and taxes

[LSX-438]

I really think the lower profile on these is going to let them down (for our heavy cars). Happy to be proven otherwise though.

[sewid]

Im eagerly waiting to find out myself. All reports so far have been negative but noone I know has been using the final version yet.

[LSX-438]

hopefully we'll get some unbiased reviews soon. either way being the first r compound 20", they should sell well for the casual track day warriors

[TheTunersGroup]

There's 2 articles about them here ...

http://www.gtrblog.com/2009/08/31/toyo-pro...gt-r-sizes-soo/

http://www.gtrblog.com/2009/09/03/toyo-tir...he-proxes-r888/

- The Tuners Group

[Snowman]

Yeah I wouldn't be rushing out on a set of these just yet.

I know on the older model GT-R's the R888's never worked well so I can't see how a heavier car is going to improve matters!

[Beer Baron]

my thoughts as well. I've tried the 19s on a 35 and it was slower than the factory 20 dunlops. I can't imagine the 20s being any giant step up. they R888s are very popular and seem to work very well in the smaller sizes and on smaller/lighter cars, civics, little alfas, mini's etc they work great. even silvias etc they are pretty good. but as snowy said they didn't really hold up too well on 32-34 GTRs and with more power and more weight on the R35 GTR they were not great. just my opinion though and it's possible the 'new' 20s are better but I wouldn't bet any money on it.

[LSX-438]

Well the silence on the USA forums about this is deafening... the odd review that comes out shows there is no improvement running the 888's (except for the ocassional knob who reckons they run fantasic.. with extra lateral grip etc et etc... then you find out it's a review running on the street... ffs). One guy has compared the 888's to the Bridgestones recently (at the track) and has not found any lap time. So thus far, 888's are more expensive than stockers, and i reckon on par if not slower than the Dunlops. As per all of the above.

[handbrake]

agree, if they had performed as people suggested there would be good data out there by now but there is nothing.

funny thing is the vendors keep selling them to GTR owners as the tire of choice to stick on all their aftermarket wheels, track and street!

people really have a hang up with the dunlops being runflats that they just cant get over for some reason - they mustn't be cool.

[fungoolie]

Well the silence on the USA forums about this is deafening... the odd review that comes out shows there is no improvement running the 888's (except for the ocassional knob who reckons they run fantasic.. with extra lateral grip etc et etc... then you find out it's a review running on the street... ffs). One guy has compared the 888's to the Bridgestones recently (at the track) and has not found any lap time. So thus far, 888's are more expensive than stockers, and i reckon on par if not slower than the Dunlops. As per all of the above.

FWIW Tony Quinn and Steve Jones were running the Dunlops in the classic adelaide. Only one GT-R was running the 888's and it was the least competitive of the three.... Not saying that the tyres were the reason it was slower but that the most experienced and fastest runners chose the Dunlops over the Toyos which must say something.

[Snowman]

Just an update from the Targa guys.

Steve Jones ran the R888's at Mt Buller (came 2nd outright) on his R35 on the weekend and his feedback on the Toyo's were that they weren't perfect but they did give a more consistant feel than the factory Dunlops do and he'll be sticking with them going forwards.

Basically he said he didn't think they were any faster but he said they were more predictable and hence he could push harder with confidence.

[LSX-438]

finally some real feedback, thanks Snowy. Anyone tried them on a racetrack/circuit yet?

[handbrake]

thanks for sharing. Anyone know if they are they available in aus anywhere or are they import only?

[Gibbo_R35]

thanks for sharing. Anyone know if they are they available in aus anywhere or are they import only?

Taleb Tyres at Arncliffe here in Sydney said they were bringing them in....may even have them in stock by now.

[handbrake]

thanks Jeff

[handbrake]

Mick from Taleb Tyres sorted me out with some Toyo 888's. Dunlop's were not going to be available on time so took a punt on the Toyos.

Whether you are after the Bridgestone stockers, Dunlop stockers or the Toyos these guys have the best prices and offer good service.

Shipped no problem to Brisbane, Thanks Mick/Ali

[LSX-438]

goodluck with these. what hot pressures are you thinking of running?

[handbrake]

waiting for some feedback via pm from nagtroc, maybe 28-30psi cold? Hot to 36psi?

maybe less cold. I am led to believe they are very sensitive to temps.suggestions anyone?

[handbrake]

ok weighed the wheels when swapping over

Front stock wheels and Bridgstones 28.6kg

Front HRE 590R wheels and Bridgstones 28.3kg

Front stock wheels and Toyo 888 26.4kg

Rear stock wheels and Bridgstones 30.0kg

Rear HRE 590R wheels and Bridgstones 29.7kg

Rear stock wheels and Toyo 888 27.4kg

Fancy 3 piece wheels 0.3kg lighter than stock. who would of guessed that!

20 inch nonrunflats save about 2.6kg over stock runflats per corner

[Dominic]

who would of guessed that!

20 inch nonrunflats save about 2.6kg over stock runflats per corner

Thats why the base model GTR IE less run flats, leather trim and bose is lighter, but the manual says its only 10kg lighter.