Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

Not so with Windows 7. There is now no 4GB Ram limit in 32bit OS. So you can run as much as you like. Have a machine at work utilising 24GB of RAM on 32bit 7 OS.

But how does it do that though? My understanding of the 4gig cap was that it was a physical memory address limitation of 32bit OS...

Does 7 uses some kind of fancy coding tricks to get around this memory address limitation?

On topic: Had 7 RC installed for a couple of month now, no problems with it.

I was surprised that It managed to find all of the drivers for my ASUS laptop (minus the TV tuner & in modem drivers) using its auto update feature, so I didn't have to go search on the net myself for them.

Also just got Windows 7-tan Nanami Madobe theme installed from the Japanese win 7. I'm complete sold now. :blush:

  • Replies 112
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Sorry I was a bit quick to state it can use more than 4GB of ram. Windows limits it to 4GB but if you patch the kernel you can get it to read more. However, the 4GB limit has been lifted for Ready boost.

The 4GB limit of 32bit Windows is a bit archaic IMO. It is to do with driver support and the intel and AMD architechture. There are other 32bit OS that can handle more than 4GB happily unfortunately to get Windows to, you need to "play" with it a little.

Will update the running of the 512mb box once it's completely finished.

  • 2 weeks later...

i thought that since vista service pack 1, 32 bit windows will now read that there is 4gb+ of ram or however much is installed, however - as per the limitations of a 32 bit operating system, it can only and will only use a percentage of the installed ram?

i remember reading that the feature was added due to people installing more than 4 gb and raising alot of questions as to why it was only reading as 3gb or 3.2gb - etc. so it now gives you a spill of how much is actually in there and thats it.

Edited by KR4-GTR
I am so pissed.

I installed Windows 7 ultimate (64 bit) on my laptop tonight.

The simplicity has disappeared. The small things (for one - the quick launch bar) are gone and ive got the CPU and RAM meters up and it still appears to be just as power hungry as vista, even a clean install (with no other programs) on idle is using 27% of my 4GB ram. Although you can work around some of these missing features and add them with a bit of code, would the standard user know how to do this?

The standard tasks i knew how to do before have now all changed - i.e. - organising my items in the start menu. I dont want to have to re learn shit - I can see the whole change of numerous processes and procedures pissing alot of people off. Its not 'better' its all just 'different', not user friendly.

The bug count is f**ked. Even Windows Live Messenger doesnt work properly - and its a microsoft program. It opens the program in 2 seperate windows you have to run it in compatibility mode for Vista to get it to work. You'd think it would be someones job to test this shit!

I know some initial teething issues are expected with the release of a new OS, but I was expecting a great operating system after microsofts last vista disappointment, and things are not looking bright.

Anyway, looks like im heading back into the vista waters tomorrow anyway as it wont even let me install my sound and modem drivers just because they are not digitally signed. Microsoft wont even let me choose which drivers i want to install now.. whats next? I bet in their next service pack they'll remove functionality to be able to type the word 'Apple' or any word starting with 'i' on a PC.

I've spent 3 hours trying to make this right and talking shit to myself saying its better than vista, but im only lying to myself. What a f**king failure of an operating system.

Just a rant at 2am.

What do you guys think of it?

I can see what the replies to this thread will be. So i'll say it now - no, im not going to get a mac!

Im just waiting for it to install now actually, be interesting to see what its like. And ive only just gotten used to Vista, dam technoloedgy changes over night!

  • 3 weeks later...

I like it, didnt at first like most of you :P but you will soon learn to love it too. Since when has simplicity been such a bad thing? The specifics are still there, you just have to know where to look.

ya i never thought i'd be able to part with XP, but this 7 is very easy to use after a few hours of playing around with it, tasks can get done alittle faster mainly because multi[ple programs get organised easier, and ilove the preview thing when you roll tha mouse over the tabs at the bottom, shows you what windows are open, a big time saver, and makes eevrything feel more organised.

Only thing i can fault is i had an issue with trying to install Left 4 Dead (original game) on windows 7 64bit version and it couldnt be done, it wouldnt accept the disk, so i took it back to JB HI FI and got store credit on the game, then went to steam and got L4D2 for the same price as L4D in the shops here in OZ because of the USD conversion rate. thank you rising AUD.

i thought that since vista service pack 1, 32 bit windows will now read that there is 4gb+ of ram or however much is installed, however - as per the limitations of a 32 bit operating system, it can only and will only use a percentage of the installed ram?

i remember reading that the feature was added due to people installing more than 4 gb and raising alot of questions as to why it was only reading as 3gb or 3.2gb - etc. so it now gives you a spill of how much is actually in there and thats it.

Limitation of consumer 32bit OS, you can hack Win7 32 to run over 3GB.

im running windows 7 64 bit on 3 computers - have noticed that 2 of them are only running at 3GB ram, and the other is running at 3.5

weird stuff!?

so all the computers have onboard video cards? if not windows will reserve ram to use for video memory

so all the computers have onboard video cards? if not windows will reserve ram to use for video memory

hey my 2 desktops both have dedicated 512 mb ati graphics cards i have installed, and they both still read as only 3gb and 3.5gb of ram, instead of 4gb!

both of my laptops are both at 3gb aswell, should be 4gb - i know that a portion should be reserved for video - but 1gb!?

any advice would be appreciated :)

cheers!

hey my 2 desktops both have dedicated 512 mb ati graphics cards i have installed, and they both still read as only 3gb and 3.5gb of ram, instead of 4gb!

both of my laptops are both at 3gb aswell, should be 4gb - i know that a portion should be reserved for video - but 1gb!?

any advice would be appreciated :)

cheers!

i can only suggest you try updating the mobo;s bios

Try this, i havnt tried it so i dont know if it will work or not.

http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2009/0...han-4gb-memory/

or, install 64bit, its better anyway.

  • 2 weeks later...

64 bit windows 7 RC. havent had any issues whatsoever. even got my usb audio device working on it. and they're renowned for NOT working with vista or 7.

will upgrade to my free copy i got sent to me when i can be bothered formatting! :D 7 > Vista && XP.

will be upgrading at work soon.. the problem with 7 is that there is no built in support for developing in VB6. (i work on alot of legacy programs) so i will be using VMWare with a XP virtual HDD. should be fine :) only issue i had was that i liked coding with dual screens and i couldnt get a virtual PC to span. so u have to remote desktop to the virtual PC and then span the screens. yay :huh:

I really dislike being on Vista at work when i'm on 7 at home though!!! :|

thats my 5 cents / 2$ ;)

well got my pc workign again thanks to my pc guy

asked him what i can do to get it much faster with the hardware i got

windows 7 he said

then you can run a 64 bit system as opposed you your 32bit

and run 8gb of ram i said

yes he said

i bounded back home like a child with a lollypop

got the pc started up and said my respectfull goodbyes to XP

inserted disk, restarted, formatted, reinstalled 7

started first go super quick - just like vista but the mrs had vista on her laptop - so not so foreign to me

Update? yes please - clicky clicky - must restart

sure restart 7 you are so awesome

restart - background and no icons or taskbar - just blank screen

hmmm i'll leave you to think 7

come back 30 mins later and no go...

no more working 7....

reinstall

same as before but this time i sought ati drivers and catylist and loaded them on - beep

7 restarts in safemode

restart after

no icons...

uninstall 7 and reinstall after format

update? yes!

restart - no icons

the ONLY way to get it working again is to load on XP

^^^^ i did this for 2 days solid over a weekend and had enough

i'll try in a few months and hope one of the auto "updates" fixes this problem

so far i think 7 is shit...

Windows 7 thinks you're shit.

well you buy any product and have the expectation that it will work the first time.

sending windows 7 flowers to try to try and get on its good side

well you buy any product and have the expectation that it will work the first time.

sending windows 7 flowers to try to try and get on its good side

Beta - worked first time

RC - worked first time

Release - worked first time

Intel/AMD

nVidia/ATi

Didn't matter.

nerdcomputerrepair.jpg

That's obviously not me.

He's wearing underpants.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • So, I started this repair and got as far as "fixing" the holes with some fibreglass. God all those years working on boats came back quickly. I decided I'd reach out to some rust guys just to see what they would say about it. I came across a guy about 40 mins away and went to see him. He said the windscreen needs to come out, that there might be some more bits around the windscreen and he'd quote them at the time. But his quote was $300 to remove and replace windscreen and $3k for the damage he can see. He said he could respray the roof for $1200 and the bonnet for another $800 (somebody has previously rattle canned it, its horrendous). This is $5300 + any small additional bits. It's a lot, I get that and the name of one of my fave youtube channels 'Not Economically Viable' comes to mind.  I'm not being financially rational, but I've taken him up on the quote. He's opening a new shop in November with more room, so we're waiting for that. I'll leave the currently missing headliner out until then. I'm looking forward to it being fixed and having the paint looking nice again (lots of clear coat issues on the roof too). / flame suit on.
    • Oh and some up-and-comings; New rear drivers wheel bearing. I'll do that this weekend while the diff is out. The car is already up and the d/c axles and missing exhaust will help with space. This is the last bearing for me to do and I've been dragging my feet on it. I also have some new EBC blue stuff pads for the car and some new brake fluid. I haven't ever flushed the fluid in this car and looking forward to it. I have 600 degree fluid to put in. Not exactly "race fluid" but better than the typical stuff I have been using.
    • A proper clutch/plate type mechanical diff with quite a lot of pre-load and high locking % is better for drifting. Much more consistent in its behaviour. A helical can be annoyingly vague and inconsistent in how it responds under the sorts of abuse found in drifting.
    • Some updates here. I pulled the entire interior out, minus some trim to respray the seats with Colourlock dye. It turned out really nice though I accidentally let the dog in the car after and she scratched up the front seat.  This is what it looked like before, the colour was just washing out everywhere but thankfully the leather was in good nic. Then after the respray   And after the bloody dog jumped in The headliner is out waiting to be retrimmed, but it will stay out now until Nov - see why below. I replaced the stereo/headunit with a period-styled Android headunit. I have no after pics, but I'll get some. This is because of the missing pixels. I tried to fix this twice with replacement ribbon cables but couldn't. Also the bluetooth interface I'd bought for this was crap. Then there's the rusty roof. Pics and info in this other thread. I have decided to get this repaired professionally, but I'll update that thread. This is why the headliner will stay out for now. I'll be getting the roof and bonnet resprayed at the same time the rust is fixed. I also had an interesting issue with my drivers door lock.  For a small period I was having issues getting any 12v power to the car - I mean *any*. It would have no dash lights, nothing. It happened while I was at the shops and I couldn't get in the car. So, we had 2 problems. The most pressing here is that I was locked out. I have only a single physical key hole on the car, the drivers door and no amount of turning would unlock the car. Surely it doesn't need power for this? The second issue is why am I losing all power periodically, The battery isn't dead, its almost like the battery isn't even there. Two issues that were surprisingly easy to fix. You fellow BMW over-engineering lovers will appreciate this. The lock in the door has 5 states; mechanical lock, electric lock, neutral, electric unlock, mechanical unlock achieved at -90 degrees, -45 degrees, 0 degrees, 45 degrees and 90 degrees. Although, the unlock is towards the front of the car, so opposite for LHD countries. Sticking the key in and turning 45 left or right is what is used 99% of the time. It activates the central locking etc. 90 degrees is for dead battery access and, obvs, only un/locks the one door. But because the mechanical lock is never used and is 27 years old, it seizes up. I was totally unable to turn the key far enough to get to the mechanical unlock (At the time of locking myself out, I didn't even know this was a thing). I eventually did it with some vicegrips and teflon spray.  I made a quick vid for other E39 peeps.   The battery issue is totally new to me also - It wasn't making sufficient contact between the post and the terminal. The terminal was bolted on tight, but the car wouldn't have power. After checking the battery with my multimeter I accidentally contacted the terminal and the battery post and the car got power. The battery was only a few years old and in good condition. I cleaned the post and the terminal with a wire brush, bolted it back on tight and never had the issue again. I'm still surprised that despite having solid contact it didn't work. Also, the car was getting Warragamba sized pools of water in the back when it rained. My initial concern was another rust problem. But when I went out on Weds while it was raining and while I had no headliner in I could see a steady stream of water coming through the roof mounted aerial. As this aerial is for the (now removed) car phone I pulled it out and whacked a blanking grommet in the hole. It seems fine now. I'm thinking I might get the hole permanently filled when the rust is fixed. Moving forward and things in progress; The tailgate needs some attention. I have taken all the trim off to clean it all and address some small rust spots. I have partially done all of this but I'll finish it up hopefully this weekend. As all the trim are now entirely devoid of trim clips I have bought a heap of strong velcro and I'm hoping it does a good enough job as any of this trim in good condition is super expensive and usually in Europe as we dont have many of the wagons here. Suspension and brakes!!! This is exciting. In the front; New control arms New sway bar links New lower Eibach springs (the only modification I'm planning on this car) M Sport shocks (these came with the car and will replace the longer shocks in the car) New top mounts Used 540i calipers (stock brakes suck!) New 540i disks and pads (22x296 mm for 528 and 30x334 mm for 540i) New front wheel bearings (thank all that is holy for bolt on bearings!) Annnnd in the back; New control arms New sway bar links Adjustable air suspension arms (fool the car into what the current height is so the self levelling suspension can match the new front ride height) New ball joints I'll also be doing a brake fluid flush while I'm in there. I'm planning on switching the car over to the 16's that came with it so I can clean up and respray the M Sport 17's. They've lost a lot of colour over the years and have some gutter rash. None of this will start until the E90 is back.
    • You mean you will regret it for drifting duties? I don't quite follow.
×
×
  • Create New...