About To Buy My New Baby - Very Excited !

[The Law]

Hi Guys,

Great to see this forum is still going strong.

Been a while since Ive been on it (my old username was jezzrrr) since sold both my R33 GTR & R34GTR VSpec.

Now looking for a used R35 weapon and very excited about the prospect.

Will be doing some immediate mods like:

exhaust

brakes

tyres

cobb or similar tune

My objective is to unlock the beast and have a reliable track/rally/road car.

What do you guys suggest in terms of specific mods in line with above e.g. brand etc and what sort of costs will I be looking at ?

p.s. "the Law" not a cop - a lawyer.

Edited February 6, 2010 by The Law

[09GTR]

Hi Guys,

Great to see this forum is still going strong.

Been a while since Ive been on it (my old username was jezzrrr) since sold both my R33 GTR & R34GTR VSpec.

Now looking for a used R35 weapon and very excited about the prospect.

Will be doing some immediate mods like:

exhaust

brakes

tyres

cobb or similar tune

My objective is to unlock the beast and have a reliable track/rally/road car.

What do you guys suggest in terms of specific mods in line with above e.g. brand etc and what sort of costs will I be looking at ?

p.s. "the Law" not a cop - a lawyer.

I went for HKS570 kit, 800cc injectors, Cobb custom tune, AP slotted rotors, Carbotech 12 pads for track, Endless MX72s for street, stock back end exhaust, dunlop tyres. These mods are pretty basic really, but see 401kw at the wheels (check out the thread Love The Beast to see the results). I have two custom maps for street/drags & track. The car is incredibly reliable, but quite loud.

Cost wise expect to spend btw $20k and $30k. Jim at Croydon Racing Developments has done all my work ( and my last eleven cars!).

Hope this helps.

[The Law]

I went for HKS570 kit, 800cc injectors, Cobb custom tune, AP slotted rotors, Carbotech 12 pads for track, Endless MX72s for street, stock back end exhaust, dunlop tyres. These mods are pretty basic really, but see 401kw at the wheels (check out the thread Love The Beast to see the results). I have two custom maps for street/drags & track. The car is incredibly reliable, but quite loud.

Cost wise expect to spend btw $20k and $30k. Jim at Croydon Racing Developments has done all my work ( and my last eleven cars!).

Hope this helps.

Thanks great details.

Looked at your thread looks great, seemed like you got the 401KW without the 800cc injectors, were they necessary ?

Also whats the cost of the HKS 570 kit ? do you think its the way to go rather than just say a good mid pipe ??

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p.s. "the Law" not a cop - a lawyer.

sorry to hear.

[fungoolie]

Thanks great details.

Looked at your thread looks great, seemed like you got the 401KW without the 800cc injectors, were they necessary ?

Also whats the cost of the HKS 570 kit ? do you think its the way to go rather than just say a good mid pipe ??

Maybe guys like Martin could comment on this as well. The HKS 570 kit seems to have some unecessary bits in it. From what I've been able to see, the wastegate actuators and boost controller are not required with the latest Cobb accessport tunes. All it really has that would provide tangible value for money benefits are the midpipe and dump pipes. I'm not sure what real value comes from replacing the intake ducting with aluminium pipes and whether or not it requires bigger blow off valves. So would you be better off just buying the exhaust bits from Willall and/or others and then just going with the tune? (Their new titanium midpipe looks beautiful). And I'm also curious as to whether or not you needed to go to 800cc injectors when you were making 401 kW with the original ones? Was it just a safety decision as you were getting marginal on injector duty cycle?

Definitely +1 on the brakes and for wheels and tyres I'd go down the path of 18s with 2nd hand slicks as many on here have done for best value/speed for money. Depends on whether you want to trailer your car to the track or change them once there I suppose. I'm still a couple years away from doing my mods but always very interested in whats delivering the best results out there.

Edited February 7, 2010 by fungoolie

[sewid]

Yeah agreed the HKS570 kit is a very early kit and now has a few bits you wont need. You no longer need to touch the wastegate actuators or use any aftermarket EBC with the Cobb version 2.0 maps. Blow off valves are certainly just a gimmick. Provided you want to keep it mild you could opt for something else.

The stock injectors are pretty small and very easily maxed on stock turbos so it's no wonder he went larger.

Focus on the ECU tune (Cobb with either stock 2.0 maps or custom) and exhaust to give you a big smile when you put your foot down for relatively small investment.

[09GTR]

I went for the HKS setup for a few reasons:

1. it was tested & proven at the time (Cobb wasnt even available)

2. it was an end to end kit from one manufacturer, I didnt want to mix parts (White 35 did this and there were all sorts of set up issues)

3. I want to do some serious mods down the track - turbos, intercoolers etc, hence I want to build a strong platform with the right hardware

The 800cc injectors are for two reasons -1. I wanted the safety as I was running out of injector with the stock ones, 2. again I have future fuel requirements in mind...

With the BOVs ,I've had history here - most factory BOVs I've used on Evos and WRXs leak under high pressure, it may seem excessive with the current setup, but when I crank this baby up they'll do the job (they look great too)

The HKS boost controller is incredibly flexible, enables me to change the power delivery without having to download a new map.

The full HKS setup cost me $12,500. Its incredibly consistent with the same power delivery every time. Pretty good value really.

So in summary I suppose it all depends on what your long term goals are - a mild tune is possible without all the hardware, but if your goal is to eventually build a low ten second car I reckon building the right hardware platform from the start is a must... whatever that hardware might be.

[09GTR]

I should also add that the HKS dump pipes make a huge difference to the personality of the car ,check out the texiskids thread to hear it....it really does sound different to cars with standard midpipe mods only.

[fungoolie]

Looks like HKS are doing a 570 kit without the boost controller now but still providing the wastegate actuators as part of the kit. I can see the attraction of being able to change boost on the fly though. Fully understand your reasoning as to why you went for that kit when you did and considering what you have planned for the car.

A good mid priced turbo pipe kit is in the US$1000-$2000 range and a mid pipe AUS$900 and the accessport US$995 plus whatever the dyno costs are for a custom tune so if thats the full extent of your engine mods then all up you'll probably be looking at around the high $3000 range for the mid to higher 300KW range. Add another US$700 for injectors if required.

Edited February 7, 2010 by fungoolie

[The Law]

Great advice guys, thanks.

Think I will be going with a turbo back exhaust sytem like 09GTR's but will look at options incl but other than HKS too.

Will upgrade brake pads before 1st track day too having read the stories re cracked pads AND will get a set of Dunlops.

I can hear the beast scream in my dreams ....

[The Law]

p.s. who is the cheapest importers of parts to go with these days ?

[fungoolie]

p.s. who is the cheapest importers of parts to go with these days ?

Tyres you can get cheap direct from tire rack. ~$AU650 each landed dependent on exchange rate. Lots of good stuff available from Willall as well such as exhaust components.

For things like Cobb accessport, brakes etc, check sites such as gtrmod, speedforsale, forged performance and courtesy nissan (US) for maintenance items like air cleaners, oil filters, cabin filters, sump bolts/washers/gaskets .

[GTScotT]

Tyres you can get cheap direct from tire rack. ~$AU650 each landed dependent on exchange rate.

Sorry for the hijack, yet this may proove valuable anyhow.

I always ruled tirerack out as its a US site and assumed shipping would be more than the cost of the rubber itself. Can you give an indication of what shipping is worth from them?

[handbrake]

taleb tyres will get you the dunlops, bridgstones and toyos all at good prices. No need for tire rack if you are after these.

[handbrake]

for brakes,

Tony at www.speedmaster.net.au

John at www.vsport.com.au

[sewid]

Sorry for the hijack, yet this may proove valuable anyhow.

I always ruled tirerack out as its a US site and assumed shipping would be more than the cost of the rubber itself. Can you give an indication of what shipping is worth from them?

On certain tires, US price + shipping is still cheaper than any aussie price. Once Tempe and Taleb start parallel importing them though you should check them out locally before committing.

[fungoolie]

Sorry for the hijack, yet this may proove valuable anyhow.

I always ruled tirerack out as its a US site and assumed shipping would be more than the cost of the rubber itself. Can you give an indication of what shipping is worth from them?

Shipping's about US$240 for a set. I don't have the "luxury" of Taleb here in SA yet I'd still find it hard to believe they'd get you a set for $2600. Maybe I'm wrong. It only makes sense to buy OS when you are looking at expensive tyres though.

[handbrake]

give taleb a call, you may be surprised

[XXXV]

Yes US seem still to be cheaper...

[handbrake]

just to be clear.

dunlops at taleb 2600, that should be the price delivered (at least for syd-bris). if not, it is very close. bridgestones similar price. toyos 2850 delivered.