How Do You Tell If The Car Has Done Big Kms?

[Kujotk]

"if its black it hasnt been looked after at all" - thats a ripper comment !! thats the oils job

If a decent rb turbo engine is pure black on a dipstick wipe, it isn't getting the proper maintenance or the engine isn't running fresh anymore. An RB turbo should never get to the point of being pure black on a dipstick wipe.

[Kujotk]

what is this utter BULLSHIT about the oil not meant to turn black?

if it's doing it's f**king job and cleaning as well as lubricating the engine of course it's going to turn black you daft c unt, easy to see that you've never serviced any of your own cars.

look at my cars results.

"if its black it hasnt been looked after at all" - thats a ripper comment !! thats the oils job

IT is correct, if it is BLACK it hasn't been looked after, the oils job isn't to turn black, in these engines if it is pure black there is something wrong with the car or it isn't maintained properly or both.

every car i have ever owned or seen, including my mothers corolla which she bought brand new will turn the oil black once the engine is run in. sure a brand new engine that has had the oil changed once or twice might still have ok coloured oil after 5000kms, but you will find that once it is past that it will turn the oil black. all engines do it. it is a fact of life. if you go and check a car and the oil is still golden then it means that the oil is fresh, not that the engine is in super great condition.

3000km in my car since its last service (yes i did the 100 000km service early because just like all of you out there, i have no way of knowing if my car's kms a genuine. I'm just checking if 3000km means the car is run in yet? because my oil is still mostly yellow not with a bit of brown???

ha ha, Annas engine is 10,000km old and still turns the oil blackish and thats well before 5000km. If i pulled the sump and it was still golden it would be concerned...because that would be fkn wierd! lol

I never said if the oil was pulled out of the sump, but I have since clarified that I am talking about the dipstick.

You guys will probably reply saying something along the lines that i'm getting too worked up about something so trivial. Well it directly answers the thread and it WILL help a potential buyer find a decent skyline or at least minimise the risk of buying an under performing lemon.

And for those of you who cannot admit that I know what i'm talking about, look at these pics, Next service is 2000km away, so the car has done nearly 3000km since its last oil change. the other photo shows the colour of the oil, pretty yellow to me with alittle bit of brown, but maybe bunta is right and my car isn't run in after 3000km?

[Kujotk]

every car i have ever owned or seen, including my mothers corolla which she bought brand new will turn the oil black once the engine is run in. sure a brand new engine that has had the oil changed once or twice might still have ok coloured oil after 5000kms, but you will find that once it is past that it will turn the oil black. all engines do it. it is a fact of life. if you go and check a car and the oil is still golden then it means that the oil is fresh, not that the engine is in super great condition.

Funny that, I went away to Port maquarie for the long weekend, the gf's 2005 Astra has done circa 30 000km, it is due for a minor service in about 1000km so the car has done 9000km since last oil change. I checked the oil last friday just to make sure there was enough in it, even after 9000km since last oil change the oil still had some yellow in it, sure it wasn't clean by any standards, but it definately was far from being black.

Could it be because she only ever uses ron 95 and 98 fuel, so it doesn't leave asmuch crap in the engine oil? I doubt her garage uses great oil in an astra... That car hasn't had any problems either after 20 000km shes owned it...

[Munkyb0y]

hold on a sec. you're talking about the colour of the oil on the dipstick?

hahaha i'm pretty sure everyone else is talking about the oil dumped from the sump. big difference. maybe you should have clarified that earlier, as people were referring to the colour of oil at an oil change, which would indicate pulling the sump plug. oil lands in tray. black.

[mad082]

oh if i wipe the dipstick on a white rag even the dirtiest oil can still look like it has a yellow tinge to it. hell i change the oil in my mothers corolla on the weekend and it has done about 145,000kms and had done about 14,000kms on that lot of oil (was 4000kms overdue) and even the oil in it was only a medium brown when

as for what RB stands for. it stands for..... nothing. it is just an engine code like SR, CA, VG, VH, VR, FJ, L, S, VQ, etc. they are just engine codes and you would have to ask the engineers at nissan what they actually mean, but it certainly doesn't mean race bred. that is just something that someone came up with and skyline fans took it to be gospel. i actually prefer to say that it stands for runs bearings, and that SR stands for shits rockers as that is a better description of common issues people have with them. i think it is pretty naive to think that nissan gave the initials of 1 engine a meaning but none of the other engines. it would also be pretty much the only engine on the market with a name that means something. none of the toyota engines have corresponding names. i'd nearly put money on the letter having something to do with the name of the person who designed the engine.

[Kujotk]

hold on a sec. you're talking about the colour of the oil on the dipstick?

hahaha i'm pretty sure everyone else is talking about the oil dumped from the sump. big difference. maybe you should have clarified that earlier, as people were referring to the colour of oil at an oil change, which would indicate pulling the sump plug. oil lands in tray. black.

I have made it more clearer after I realised, but how the hell do you expect to dump the oil on a car your only looking at? I thought it would be assumed thats where any reasonable person would check the oil during a viewing inspection. Even a propper Pre purchase inspection will never dump the ouil from the sump just to check its condition.....

[Kujotk]

oh if i wipe the dipstick on a white rag even the dirtiest oil can still look like it has a yellow tinge to it. hell i change the oil in my mothers corolla on the weekend and it has done about 145,000kms and had done about 14,000kms on that lot of oil (was 4000kms overdue) and even the oil in it was only a medium brown when

Ya but I originally said the oil in a maintained gtst shouldn't even be very brown let alone black with a tinge of yellow to it.

Anyway point made and accepted.

What else can help the original threads question? Paint fade, condition of rubber seals...?

[Munkyb0y]

I have made it more clearer after I realised, but how the hell do you expect to dump the oil on a car your only looking at? I thought it would be assumed thats where any reasonable person would check the oil during a viewing inspection. Even a propper Pre purchase inspection will never dump the ouil from the sump just to check its condition.....

ok thats true, but people were talking about the insight gained by the state of their oil at the next oil change, on a car they already purchased.

anyways. yeah my oil is silky smooth and golden on the dipstick too. and so it should be. its just a thin film against silver backround.

[jrm]

so instead of telling us its a myth, and only you have said otherwise even though allot of people in the know haven't said anything about that statement, what does it mean? Enlighten us.

Every week there is someone on here saying it stands for Race Bred, no one has said what it actually stands for nd no one has contested it...

They're probably sick and tired of it coming up as I am. I bit this time, I'm sorry.

Basically - use the search function - it's been discussed numerous times. I'm not starting yet another pointless conversation on something that's been discussed a lot of times before and always ends badly.

[Kujotk]

They're probably sick and tired of it coming up as I am. I bit this time, I'm sorry.

Basically - use the search function - it's been discussed numerous times. I'm not starting yet another pointless conversation on something that's been discussed a lot of times before and always ends badly.

someone has already answered it and it would have been easier to just say the answer instead of acting like a knob about it

[bozodos]

Well it dosen't help your case to cite it LOL.

Don't forget all decent oils have detergent agents in them to REMOVE carbon etc, my oil isn't black on the dipstick or when wiped on a rag, it's black as in the oil pan though! (mind you I have an overfuelling car).

This is in a car which also only EVER has 98 octane fuel in it, usually of the BP, Shell or United variety.

[Kujotk]

slightly off topic but you said you use shell fuel in your car, do you feel any difference when you compare it to the BP?

[bozodos]

seat of the pants says that the Shell fuel is slightly better, and the E10 Boost 98 make it use *even* more, though when you're going through ~120L a week it becomes reletive LOL.

I noticed the difference more in the GF's 1200 in that the Shell fuel seemed to make it crackle and pop more when backing off the throttle, and it stopped the preignition on turning it off.

When it comes down to it, apart from maybe having a good look at the chassis, what is there to tell that it's done big kms that can't be replaced?

[matt15]

10) in the old days, we could put a wooden dowel between your ear and the crankshaft pulley bolt and listen for clackety noises - but I'm not sure about our cars. I know that worn BMW VANOS clatter can still be picked up this way.

works well for older engines.