IOWNU Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 Guys I was just wondering whether it is worth putting a factory turbo on my GTS R33? The turbo is free btw....What are the pros and cons....after affects of performance etc? Ta. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/30992-turbocharge-my-na-r33/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 > Guys I was just wondering whether it is worth putting a factory turbo on my > GTS R33? No it's not > The turbo is free btw....What are the pros and cons Possiblity of: - Different fuel pump - Different manifold (no direct bolt on I dont think) - Different ECU (Car Computer) - Install intercooler (factory one is ok) - Brake Upgrade Albet the 33 GTS is a fine tuned N/A car its not feasible for direct bolt on. Much better to sell and get a stock GTST. Cuts out the hassles of ECU, Fuel maps/sensors etc which can affected as soon as you Turbocharge it. > after affects of performance etc Higher fuel usage. Faster acceleration. Induction sound. BOV sound. Much higher kw at the flywheel and wheels. GTST stock is 187 at the flywheel, I think the R33 N/A is around 90kw at the flywheel. My Advice, drive a friends GTST and then go buy one Seriously, you can spend $5k to turbo yours properly and it wont have the same resale value as GTST as its been converted Same argument VL N/A upgrade to VL Turbo. Other things different between the two models: -N/A brakes are TERRIBLE and not SAFE for Turbo conversion (well the VL ones aren't) -N/A ECU would be shit as (the rb30 n/a ECU that is) In the "turbo" forums people ask the similar question: > Should I go the RB26 upgrade for my GTST? The short answer is no unless you want something specific. Some people think if you get a GTST and swap engine for an RB26 that its worth almost as much as a GTR. Theres many more features in the GTR that yours wont have. Brakes/ECU/Fuelpump/Intercooler etc are some of them. If you wanna just wanna run two turbos then no. If you wanna stroke it, cams, pistons, ecu, apexi powerfc, single high mount turbo etc.... and u want 800bhp then yes RB26, else no as you'll have hardcore traction problems. Hope this helps a little. Bu all means get some quotes but youll probably find its not worth it as it wont have a much higher resale value as its still a GTS Guys I was just wondering whether it is worth putting a factory turbo on my GTS R33? The turbo is free btw....What are the pros and cons....after affects of performance etc? Ta. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/30992-turbocharge-my-na-r33/#findComment-625641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis® Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 i agree with paulr33. its either you get a new front cut and do your conversion from there or dun even bother at all. at the end of the day, the cost and hassle is too much work... a conversion is still highly recommended than a bolt-on UNLESS your internals are already built for it... such as the NA supras that came with forge pistons already ... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/30992-turbocharge-my-na-r33/#findComment-625810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismodified Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 NA R33 2.5L is 142kws at the fly at least. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/30992-turbocharge-my-na-r33/#findComment-625839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nismoman18 Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 lol 90KW's is wat a freakin lancer makes, R33 NA is 145kw flywheel, the R34 NA makes 149, R32 makes like 120 ?, no way near 90. i reckon just bu a turbo skyline!c Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/30992-turbocharge-my-na-r33/#findComment-626242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameron Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 buy rb25det Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/30992-turbocharge-my-na-r33/#findComment-626956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 Haha sorry for the low figures. I realise my estimate was way out All in all it is probably better and cheaper and more cost effective in regards to economy of scale to sell yours and a GTST instead. But each to their own Some prefer to do the upgrade themselves (from N/A to T) and learn along the way etc. Just remember its not a simple as bolt on turbo, start engine and your off. There are lots of other factors to be done as metioned above. If your going to do, do it properly (this is where the main cost comes from) and upgrade everything else as you will need it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/30992-turbocharge-my-na-r33/#findComment-627687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOWNU Posted January 4, 2004 Author Share Posted January 4, 2004 Thanks, that's really handy info....r u sure that I have to change the ECU? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/30992-turbocharge-my-na-r33/#findComment-627748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pva_Glue Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 IMHO its not worth it... unless its R33 GTS-4... still then a lot of work to do. cheers Joe Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/30992-turbocharge-my-na-r33/#findComment-627863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Im pretty sure, not 100%. I know all the fuel maps and airflow ratings will change as your engine is use to say x amount of air flow and it will now get say x + 300 of airflow. Could even max out your stock airflow meter. Not sure if they are different between N/A and T Also engine compression could be a problem as rb25de and rb25det have different compression levels meaing when you bolt on your T it could be affect the engine and youll be restricted to a low boost level, like 6psi max. Ask in the forced induction forum about ecu change if you bolt on a on turbo to rb25de Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/30992-turbocharge-my-na-r33/#findComment-629705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOWNU Posted January 13, 2004 Author Share Posted January 13, 2004 Sorry about this late reply I'm currently overseas. Let me rephrase that. The Intercooler is free, the turbo is free, I only have to pay the labour and anything else that is reqd? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/30992-turbocharge-my-na-r33/#findComment-641843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
666DAN Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 I say go for it! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/30992-turbocharge-my-na-r33/#findComment-644652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcada Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 your ECU would go crazy over the forced induction. besides, the RD25DET has stronger pistons and a lower compression ratio. i've heard horror stories of guys adding bolt-ons and have blown up their RB25DE. Two different engines. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/30992-turbocharge-my-na-r33/#findComment-644656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crooser Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 as far as management goes, just use 25det injectors and a factory 25det ecu - a straight swap. the wiring loom and afm are the same keep it to stock boost and you'll be fine Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/30992-turbocharge-my-na-r33/#findComment-645087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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