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Rekin

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UWISSH! Grand Master

UWISSH!

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What?????

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

In the UK this IS the best you can get there is nothing that comes close do doing half the things this ebc can do

It mainly comes down to having it set up correctly performance wise as a vast amount of people out there dont understand it and chuck it in learn mode, so yeah it wont perform that well as its not set up for each car

But set it up for the car with the correct rpm boost vales and gear based boost control function and your laughing

So what have you guys got here that dose all more and better then???

haha its almost like you told him santa doesnt exist lol

Duncan Grand Master

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if you wire in your low level indicator cut out on the power source for your ebc it will revert to stock if triggered.

excellent idea....stolen for future use too :thumbsup:

btw jjskyline79, STATUS has previously posted back to back dyno comparisons showing AVCR controlling boost poorly compared to other options...try a search on here

jjskyline79 Community Regular

jjskyline79

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excellent idea....stolen for future use too :P

btw jjskyline79, STATUS has previously posted back to back dyno comparisons showing AVCR controlling boost poorly compared to other options...try a search on here

Sorry mate I just don't believe the findings

for starters he said there was no gain control on the avcr when there is

Plus I think there are quite a few that agree

http://www.skylineowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137822

STATUS Grand Master

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Sorry mate I just don't believe the findings

for starters he said there was no gain control on the avcr when there is

Plus I think there are quite a few that agree

http://www.skylineowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137822

haha telling people who own an AVCR that it "aint all that" will always results in favourable posts.... it would be the same if i started a thread for any make of boost controller.

Datalogging various controllers over the years has been my resource of information as is the 800-900 odd cars ive had on my dyno...

If your happy with it then thats all that matters.

But blitz, Greddy, Sard & Turbosmart , all read boost pressure from the engine by vacuum hose till dashboard. Only AVCR and HKS reads them electronically using a MAP sensor correct me if im wrong??? How is the blitz quicker??? is it also closed loop???

The AVCR has all the bells and whistles built in no need to buy any extra bits but if you buy a power fc you can do even more as you no but at an added cost

As said before you can adjust the avcr to ramp up as fast or as slow as you like at any rpm in any gear so im still lost that you think its 10 years behind and has poor performance it appears to be fully adjustable or at least more adjustable then most it even monitors injector pulse to maintain stable boost, hell it want even start learning until it detects safe stable boost that's a got to be good right??? you can even set the feed back rate on its own self correction

Amongst all the other features there is even a ghost boost map graph to allow easy comparisions as well as the record function and you can have it either presented digitally in anolog or via a graph

I carnt comment on any other ebc because i've only ever used a manual bleed valve personally that i thought was crap really tbh self adjusted could'nt control the random boost spikes and creep and thought it would do more damage then good so got rid asap

I've never had any problem with any AVCR i've set up or seen any that they were slow to "ramp up" but then i would have set it up for the car and what the user wanted and i would have thought they would have said something if it was "slow"

I no people that have them and have no problem with them and have thought they out perform many other ebc on the market by leaps and bounds.

Sorry if this post sounds like im having a go but how is that 10 year behind and poor performance maybe is it to much for some people and all they want is a boost controller???

To me the AVCR is a boost controller.

Nearly all EBC's have a accurate electronic map sensor, be it internal or external... the location is not important (most high end ecus have the map sensor in cabin) and nearly all are closed loop.

It has no dedicated gain only a user programmable "openloop" duty cycle vs rpm, among other workarounds... in nearly all instances i have been able to ramp quicker withthe closed loop gain control of the Dual Solenoid blitz

All the id versions of the blitz have datalogging too in graph form with user programmable axis.. if you have the power meter you can log it against just about any input you wire it too.

TBH though the dual solenoids units by themselve's are good enough as they offer twice the sampling resolution therefore can react quicker to ramp and drop therefore eliminating all the complicated "bells and whistles" the AVCR needed to get a similar result..

Rekin Grand Master

Rekin

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haha telling people who own an AVCR that it "aint all that" will always results in favourable posts.... it would be the same if i started a thread for any make of boost controller.

Datalogging various controllers over the years has been my resource of information as is the 800-900 odd cars ive had on my dyno...

If your happy with it then thats all that matters.

Trent! What do you prefer to work with :P

Im leaning towards Gizzmo MS-IBC and I see you can supply Gizzmo too!

or second-hand blitz IDIII

Cheers :D

jjskyline79 Community Regular

jjskyline79

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haha telling people who own an AVCR that it "aint all that" will always results in favourable posts.... it would be the same if i started a thread for any make of boost controller.

True but i did only ask "is it crap???" left it open for feed back

Datalogging various controllers over the years has been my resource of information as is the 800-900 odd cars ive had on my dyno...

If your happy with it then thats all that matters.

Nearly all EBC's have a accurate electronic map sensor, be it internal or external... the location is not important (most high end ecus have the map sensor in cabin) and nearly all are closed loop.

It has no dedicated gain only a user programmable "openloop" duty cycle vs rpm, among other workarounds... in nearly all instances i have been able to ramp quicker withthe closed loop gain control of the Dual Solenoid blitz

All the id versions of the blitz have datalogging too in graph form with user programmable axis.. if you have the power meter you can log it against just about any input you wire it too.

TBH though the dual solenoids units by themselve's are good enough as they offer twice the sampling resolution therefore can react quicker to ramp and drop therefore eliminating all the complicated "bells and whistles" the AVCR needed to get a similar result..

So it had close loop map sensor and a work around for gain control (in other words it has gain control) about 10 years ago and still performs well with high end more expensive ebc plus you have to buy extra add ons with the blitz where as the avcr comes with it all in one unit. Cool

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