Lack Of Police Support

[R DIRTY 3]

Took my wife, my sister and her husband out for a coffee on Saturday night. Driving home at about 8.30pm, a couple streets from home in my wife's new car, we hear a big bang. Takes a second to realise that we had a rock thrown at us. Hit the passangers window at the top of the door and a bit on the glass. (Had it hit just the glass, it would have come throguh the window). Rubber moulding is all f**ked, glass has 4 rather decent sized chipsin it and a small amount of panel damage.

Car was stopped very quickly, both me and my brother in-law jumped out of the car and ran in to the bushes nearby where the kid ran. We lost him in the bushes. Returned to the car. Cops had been called by my wife who was very shaken. Response was "we will get there when we can and see if the kids are hanging around. Its common for kids to be throiwng rocks at cars lately'. Ummmm yeah ok.

A Van with a lady and a young child pull up (maybe 5 minutes had gone by) and informs us she was the vehicle behind us and saw the whole lot and the kid who did it and she had followed them and they are now currently sitting in a park 3 or 4 streets away.

We drive to the park, see 6 young people sitting around. We stop get out of the car, they run. We put up chase.

We ended up catching them all!!!! Wife rings Police. "We have them all held at xx park". We are advised to do nothing more and the police are on the way.

Cops get there, we have all 6 of them sitting on the wet grass. We are given the name etc of the kid that did it. All these kids are 14 and 15 years old and somewhat drunk. Still have backpacks FULL on beer stubbies.

Cops come. Our names are taken they then tel us to go away while they talk to the kids. So we walk over to the street and sit near our car.\

Cop car 2 comes.

Small discussions....Kids leave!!!! WTF.

Cops tell us, "we will call you if any thing can be done."

I ask for a police report number and im told "There probably wont be one. There is a survilance camera at a building close by but unles that has something on it, nothing will come of it." I mention i need one for insurance. Im then told 'Ok...we will 'try' to make one tomorrow and call you".

Spoke to the cops today....nothing happened! There names have been taken andthey were all given a "verbal" warning about drinking underage!!!!!!!!!!!

WOOPTY f**kING DO!!!!!

Im not a vigilanty type of person.....but maybe issuing some discipline ourselves would have been the way to go!!

Extremely pissed off! Feel extremely let down considering there were 4 of us and an independant witness who pointing out the same kid as the rock thrower!! Out of pocket $500 for new window, rubber moulding and tinting!

LESSON OF STORY. THROW ROCKS AT CARS ALL YOU WANT KIDS, TAKE DRUGS AND DRINK ALCOHOL...EVEN IF YOU DO GET CAUGHT, YOULL BE FINE!

[2LV8ETR]

Yep, and you call and say there's a car doing burnouts in a car park at any location and 5 police cars will rock up in less than 5 minutes.

The ball has definitely been dropped.

[R DIRTY 3]

Just for 1 thread, lets not mention or compare to hoon laws. There are 11ty billion closed threads on that already.

Thanks

[ix9]

They should have issued you with a police report number, if anything.

Understand they can't do anything legally, as they are juveniles, but your insurance should cover it.

Sucks, huh?

ps Hope Jazz is okay!

[SKYRYAN]

Dare I say karma for buying a falcon?

Sucks big time mate

[Crackfox]

Yep its too hard for the police to write up all the paperwork for a rock throwing incident. And because you didn't see the perpetrators and only had one witness without an admission of guilt from the kids to the cops the case would have been thrown out in court anyway.

[R DIRTY 3]

They should have issued you with a police report number, if anything.

Understand they can't do anything legally, as they are juveniles, but your insurance should cover it.

Sucks, huh?

ps Hope Jazz is okay!

Only after kind of demanding one, did i get one today.

Why cant they do anything LEGALLY? We caught the kid that did it and they were all underage drinking in public.

But yeah, the system sucks a bit.

Jazz is ok...however its scared her enough that she wont use that section of the road....its a main road in ellenbrook.

Im going to be writing to the council to have the sign the kid was hiding behind remove....from what the cops said and the rocks that were there, its a common spot for them.

[R DIRTY 3]

Yep its too hard for the police to write up all the paperwork for a rock throwing incident. And because you didn't see the perpetrators and only had one witness without an admission of guilt from the kids to the cops the case would have been thrown out in court anyway.

We did see him....we chased him initially through the bush area.

4 people in my car plus an independant. So 5 witness's is not enough??

I understand it may well get thrown out of court for what ever reason.....but what lesson did that kid go away with last night? "If you get caught, say you didnt do it and youll be let go'.

Question:

Where are the f**king parents???

Make them responsible for their kids actions if they let them roam the streets unsupervised at that time of night.

I have a 14 year old son...i know where he is 24/7. Its called taking responsibillity.

[R DIRTY 3]

Mike, I rang them.

Office is dclosed. Will again tomorrow

[Ashy Larry]

Make sure you follow up on what I said.

I am sure you will get a better outcome with that method of action.

With further action required should that fail, I think someone with deeper knowledge on the "System" in place,

Speak to Dan. He will guide you in the right direction.

However I find the incident not being taking seriously by the Police as a bit daft,

Remember the young girl in Rockingham I think, or down that way, who had a rock thrown into her window....

That made front page and 6 O'Clock news.....

[Crackfox]

We did see him....we chased him initially through the bush area.

4 people in my car plus an independant. So 5 witness's is not enough??

I understand it may well get thrown out of court for what ever reason.....but what lesson did that kid go away with last night? "If you get caught, say you didnt do it and youll be let go'.

Yeah but you did say it was 8:30pm, you were minding your own business until you heard a big bang and even then it took you a second to realise what had happened. So you cant really say you got a look at them, and one independent witness isnt very concrete. I'm only saying this due to some of my experiences as a kid. Try look at it from the other side

Firstly, playing at the beach at age 11 with 2 of my cousins, couple of days later we find out some old lady has fallen into a pit trap someone has dug and covered with sticks/leaves, broken her leg and wants to sue my parents for 6 figures because one of her friends saw us playing at the beach, assumed it was us so she changed her story to say she saw us digging that hole. It definately was not us and we only got off because of our age and the police said it was "probably too complex to have been built by 11 year olds". if I was 15 I could have been buttf**ked by the law.

If you didnt see the kids whats to say this lady didn' t drive around spot some suspicious looking kids drinking at a park and blame them? She obviously didnt chase them through the bush. These kids probably did it but you can't be 100% sure and getting charged with something you are innocent of is far worse than someone guilty getting away IMO

I have also been accused of throwing rocks at cars when I was 12 because I had a dark jumper on and was walking home from my friends house wrong time wrong place. I was shouted at and spat on by some crazed bitch who forcefully held me there till the cops arrived and let me go, she swore black and blue she nearly got hit by a rock thrown from the freeway overpass and that it was definately me that threw it (I was never even within 200m from freeway overpass btw). She genuinely couldnt believe the cops let me go and wanted them to take me straight to juvie and probably wrote to the community newspaper the next week about what an outrage it was, reintroduce the cane and death sentence for children, and something needs to be done about todays youth asap.

[Tony de Wonderful]

However I find the incident not being taking seriously by the Police as a bit daft,

Remember the young girl in Rockingham I think, or down that way, who had a rock thrown into her window....

That made front page and 6 O'Clock news.....

Yes I was going to mention that. It seems it takes an injury or death for the cops to give a damn about this sort of thing; once the media gets hold of it that is.

Anyway there is a lack of consequences for kids in our society nowadays. It has lots of causes I guess: Police, parents, lack of community, soft liberal do-gooders etc.

[SL33K]

^ point

There are these about 8 aboriginal kidz that come and play on the roof of the house thats being constructed. They come nearly everyday after the guyz working on the house leave. And two of them are so small.

I see the parents just near the street and they dont even bother.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

They should at the very least call Child Services, so they can warn the parents that continued lack of supervision may risk having there kids taken away from them.

It's a massive fine providing alcohol to minors, and yet the cops didn't even follow up on who supplied them. It's pretty pathetic

[R DIRTY 3]

They should at the very least call Child Services, so they can warn the parents that continued lack of supervision may risk having there kids taken away from them.

It's a massive fine providing alcohol to minors, and yet the cops didn't even follow up on who supplied them. It's pretty pathetic

Even give them all a fine for their drinking.....at a minimum, notify the parents!!!!

Crackfox, while we did not see the kid throw the rock directly, we are 100% certain who it was as we chased tyhem, plus the witness.

Tony..."Anyway there is a lack of consequences for kids in our society nowadays. It has lots of causes I guess: Police, parents, lack of community, soft liberal do-gooders etc."

100% correct!!!!

[Dsturbd]

How is it lack of police support ?? Government make the rules that they follow

[R DIRTY 3]

How is it lack of police support ?? Government make the rules that they follow

Police in the area have put in local papers etc that kids throwing rocks at cars is happening and we should be careful when approaching certain areas and any one with info should contact police as they need help to catch them and stop it from happening.

So, i caught them! How much more help do they want? Charge them!!!!

[SKYRYAN]

I bet they take it seriously when a rock goes through the window and smashes someone's face in, leaving them blind for life

[R DIRTY 3]

I bet they take it seriously when a rock goes through the window and smashes someone's face in, leaving them blind for life

SOmething similar happened in the past which is what Mike was refering to.

Had the rock hit just 1" lower it could have easily come through the window and hit Jazz sqaure in the head. Who knows what would result then. Dont even want to think about it

[KEN-R34]

I feel your frustration Brad!

When I hear stories like this it puts me into Punisher mode... Shoot first ask questions later.

I'm sure those kids will get what's coming to them but I hope you work something out with WAPOL....

I have heard many similar stories like this from friends. Usually nothing ends up happening and the culprit walks free...

I hope you have better luck, keep us updated mate.

Edited March 15, 2010 by KEN-R34