Which Stagea?

[Kenny80]

I have been tossing between a Stagea and a Legnum for ages now. I think I have come to the conclusion that a C34 Stagea is the car I want.

I just wouldn't mind some feedback from Stag enthusiasts to help me lock in my decision.

Firstly, I have my eye on an RS-V. I have been told that an RS-V is about 100kg lighter than an RS-4. Therefore, I am thinking that an RS-V will be quicker off the line than a heavier RS-4.

Also as an RS-V is approximately 100kg lighter than a RS-4, does this mean that performance wise, an RS-V will be nearly as responsive as a Legnum? I have read that Legnums are much more responsive than a Stag but I am assuming this comparison is with a RS-4.

How much more fuel efficient is an RS-V?

The car I am keen on is fitted with an Auto trans, so I will eventually get some work done to get a shift kit fitted. Improve more responsiveness down low.

Finally, I am not sure whether I should definitely go with a rear wheel compared to a 4 wheel drive Stag. I am not going to use this vehicle as a Drifter nor do I really need the traction of a 4 wheel drive system. Can anyone give me a reason why you have chosen a RWD or AWD?

[KiwiRS4T]

I believe the stock C34 will not be as quick as a Legnum - its bigger and heavier.

My first Stagea was a n/a neo 2wd - a nice car but my current awd is so much better in the twisty/wet conditions - the Atessa distributes power front to rear according to need and with a little more (or a lot more) horsepower you really appreciate the way it gets the power down.

[Kenny80]

I believe the stock C34 will not be as quick as a Legnum - its bigger and heavier.

My first Stagea was a n/a neo 2wd - a nice car but my current awd is so much better in the twisty/wet conditions - the Atessa distributes power front to rear according to need and with a little more (or a lot more) horsepower you really appreciate the way it gets the power down.

Thanks for the feedback mate. I understand that a C34 will be slower than the Legnum but was just curious as to how a rear wheel powered C34 will measure up againts a Legnum. I think there is 100kg difference between a RS-4 and Legnum, therfore without the Stags Altessa gear (which I believes is about 100kg) both vehicles will be on par in terms of kerb weight.

I also believe that a Legnum's twin snail set up will help with responsiveness over a RS-V/RS-4.

[Kenny80]

Also, what is so special about the Prime Edition? I know obvious things like leather, woodgrain etc but would like to know more please

[rb26stagea]

Greenghost has a RSV, and when we tested it against my auto Legnum, I was comprehensively flogged.

That said, why not get a RS4S? That way, you get manual, and it gives you the option of converting to RWD down the track, if you really insist.

As far as not needing AWD, take a RS4 stagea for a drive in the wet, and see how you feel...

[kidafa]

Firstly, I have my eye on an RS-V. I have been told that an RS-V is about 100kg lighter than an RS-4. Therefore, I am thinking that an RS-V will be quicker off the line than a heaver RS-4

Minus the fact it will not be gertting full traction when you tromp it off the line.

Attessa FTW

[Kenny80]

Minus the fact it will not be gertting full traction when you tromp it off the line.

Attessa FTW

Yes very valid point mate

[pyro-ns]

no contest for me, AWD it is.

if you just want skids, RWD, if you want cornering fun, AWD.

[QLDR31]

I have a S2 RS4.

I think id prefer a RWD.

Less maintenance hassels down the track, when 4WD is turned on its a bit notchy steering when parking etc, RWD has less weight too.

I did my first hard launch the other day with 4WD with mode on (normally just go around in RWD). Got airborne I think it has alot more go then in RWD mode.

The Stageas probably a lot easier to modify then a Legnum. If your after big power you could go for the R260 model.

[ステージア]

Also, what is so special about the Prime Edition? I know obvious things like leather, woodgrain etc but would like to know more please

Front seats are heated & electric as well.

[KiwiRS4T]

I have a S2 RS4.

I think id prefer a RWD.

Less maintenance hassels down the track, when 4WD is turned on its a bit notchy steering when parking etc, RWD has less weight too.

I did my first hard launch the other day with 4WD with mode on (normally just go around in RWD). Got airborne I think it has alot more go then in RWD mode.

The Stageas probably a lot easier to modify then a Legnum. If your after big power you could go for the R260 model.

"normally just go round in RWD"???!!!

AWD is always on unless you have removed the front driveshaft and pulled the fuse. The Attessa computer allocates drive according to need - normally 95% rear but up to 50/50 according to the conditions.

Steering is not affected. If you think it gets notchy when you turn the synchro button on that's because the synchro button locks it into 50/50 mode for pulling the car out of a wet paddock etc. That is not the "4wd" button.

[Appealing]

I have a S2 RS4.

I think id prefer a RWD.

Less maintenance hassels down the track, when 4WD is turned on its a bit notchy steering when parking etc, RWD has less weight too.

I did my first hard launch the other day with 4WD with mode on (normally just go around in RWD). Got airborne I think it has alot more go then in RWD mode.

The Stageas probably a lot easier to modify then a Legnum. If your after big power you could go for the R260 model.

I think you've been smoking more than tyres!

You can't turn off the AWD system in a Stagea! If you pull the fuse on it (under the bonnet Son), you are liable to screw up your clutch packs in the wheels.

Why anyone would want a big heavy wagon that is available in 4wd, as a RWD is beyond me.... if you want to draw lines up the road buy a V8 Commodore wagon. Cost less, and much more bogan like.

If you wan't a fine wagon, with unparalleled handling, go Stagea AWD it's awesome!

If you've been pressing the button on the dash with the "S" on it, and thinking that this turns the 4WD on, it doesn't. That button is for locking up the AWD, for very slippery surfaces. Don't use it on bitumen. It locks the split to 50% front 50% rear. Read up on the system so that you understand it.

Oh yeah, if you want the full spec sheet PM me your email address I'll send it on.... you'll be shocked! And probably even more confuddled!

[GoldZilla]

Another factor is that if you go for an AWD version, a majority of your suspension problems have already been worked out simply because of the fact that they're more common, so all that research has already been done and plenty of solutions are out there!

I'm not saying that a RWD only model will rule out any mods to suspension, but you will *possibly* need more time to research what goes where and what parts are interchangeable with other Nissan models.

[bayslideblue]

I would say it would depend what kind of fun you want to have when you're going round a corner ;-)

I have a RWD and the only downfall is that suspension parts are harder to come by.

I used to have a wrx wagon, but I decided to go RWD with the Stag. Now I can have a little slideways fun in the wet, and if I wanna take it easy I just put the traction controll back on. Having a clutch would be great though, I'm now considering the manual conversion.

[QLDR31]

"normally just go round in RWD"???!!!

AWD is always on unless you have removed the front driveshaft and pulled the fuse. The Attessa computer allocates drive according to need - normally 95% rear but up to 50/50 according to the conditions.

Steering is not affected. If you think it gets notchy when you turn the synchro button on that's because the synchro button locks it into 50/50 mode for pulling the car out of a wet paddock etc. That is not the "4wd" button.

Yeah I don't know mine has a button below the dash. When thats pressed turn the ignition on and a 4wd lights up on the dash. Then notchy steering etc.

One note: I'd never own a RWD without an LSD.

Edited June 26, 2010 by QLDR31

[Kenny80]

Thanks to everyone fir their input... Plenty of food for thought!

[d1_drifter]

Yeah I don't know mine has a button below the dash. When thats pressed turn the ignition on and a 4wd lights up on the dash. Then notchy steering etc.

Hmm, one of these 2 things could be happening;

A) The light that actually says '4WD' is on and stays on. = Bad. Means your ATTESSA isn't working!

B) The light that has your drivetrain layout, front wheels turning and there is an 'S' in the middle. Hard to explain and I have been trying to work out how to draw it using buttons on my keyboard, but it isn't working! = Normal. 50/50 Synchro is activated. Only use on slippery surfaces as said in previous posts!

[910trx]

Hard to explain and I have been trying to work out how to draw it using buttons on my keyboard,

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fail?

Edited June 29, 2010 by 910trx

[horrace]

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win

[d1_drifter]

LOL that's better than I could ever muster!

Edited June 29, 2010 by d1_drifter