Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 204
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

depends on the event - at multi-club hillclimbs up here they definitely enforce restrictors in IP. Out at Stanthorpe (Carnell) they don't care if the car is IP eligible, let alone whether it has a restrictor or not. So it varies alot. It all depends on how seriously they take themselves. It is supposed to be a National Chamionship Supersprint...

There's potential for properly IPRA legal cars not being too happy about running against illegal cars... I'm just saying if they're going to let turbo cars in IPRA without restrictors, they should have mentioned that in the Supp Regs. That way people with those cars will know and be able to enter that class, and other competitors will know in advance too and not be pissed off come race day... Its happened to me at an ordinary multi-club hillclimb at Grafton a few years ago in my Datto. Its almost bound to happen at the "Australian Supersprint Championship" that some douchebag will take it all too seriously.

Would be nice if CAMS had a national set of rules for their national championship.

depends on the event - at multi-club hillclimbs up here they definitely enforce restrictors in IP. Out at Stanthorpe (Carnell) they don't care if the car is IP eligible, let alone whether it has a restrictor or not. So it varies alot. It all depends on how seriously they take themselves. It is supposed to be a National Chamionship Supersprint...

There's potential for properly IPRA legal cars not being too happy about running against illegal cars... I'm just saying if they're going to let turbo cars in IPRA without restrictors, they should have mentioned that in the Supp Regs. That way people with those cars will know and be able to enter that class, and other competitors will know in advance too and not be pissed off come race day... Its happened to me at an ordinary multi-club hillclimb at Grafton a few years ago in my Datto. Its almost bound to happen at the "Australian Supersprint Championship" that some douchebag will take it all too seriously.

Would be nice if CAMS had a national set of rules for their national championship.

totally agree there will be people taking it too seriously....nature of this sort of event.

but they do have a national rule book - it is just that the 3 organising clubs in 3 years have all ignored it and done their own thing. Really does not help and it plays into AASA and Irace's "do anything you like" approach. If CAMS point of difference is clear and well enforced rules they are not doing it very well (their only other points of difference are expensive permits/licenses and difficult officals :) )

totally agree there will be people taking it too seriously....nature of this sort of event.

but they do have a national rule book - it is just that the 3 organising clubs in 3 years have all ignored it and done their own thing. Really does not help and it plays into AASA and Irace's "do anything you like" approach. If CAMS point of difference is clear and well enforced rules they are not doing it very well (their only other points of difference are expensive permits/licenses and difficult officals :) )

^^ I couldn't have said it better myself Duncan!

They need to consistently enforce the rules and make it across the board nationally.

That or changes the rules/classes to meet the growing number of turbo imports wanting to compete in these events.

I have no doubt IPRA rules will change in the next few years to be more turbo friendly in the next few years....they are even worse than sports sedans. None of which helps this event

  • 2 weeks later...

did anyone end up calling about the classes? If not, I might give TC a call tonight and sus out how strict they're going to be on complying with CAMS category regs. Things like:

- Improved Production - turbo restrictors, max rim width, non steel panels (eg CF/FRP bonnets), gaurd mods, wing dimensions/height

- what category a 180SX would be in - technically not eligible for IPRA or 2B/2F sports cars...

- if there will be any dramas with non-complying Jap bolt-in cages for road registered cars

if anyone else has anything to add to the list of questions, speak up

im keen but also confused as hell by all these crazy cams rules.

so freakin complicated and the sheer amount of paperwork needed is stupid.

is there a cams office in brisbane? where you can go to sort all this out or do i need to send smoke signals to warwick via snail mail and cheques

its starting to look easier/cheaper/less hassle to go AASA topgear racing/irace at this point...

Edited by scooby36
im keen but also confused as hell by all these crazy cams rules.

so freakin complicated and the sheer amount of paperwork needed is stupid.

is there a cams office in brisbane? where you can go to sort all this out or do i need to send smoke signals to warwick via snail mail and cheques

its starting to look easier/cheaper/less hassle to go AASA topgear racing/irace at this point...

Irace is definitely the go, I rang Bill last week, he has got our entries - we are in? - don't know what class, we have sent them a copy of the National Supersprint Rules - apparently to date they have dropped the standing start, but to date have not heard on classes.

They did appologise as they have there state supersrpint this weekend and hillclimb next - so therefore no doubt it is a busy club. We did also question this is also a national event and would appreciate entries / classes - sorted asap.

Bill and event secretaries numbers are same, same - you'll get Bill - personally I think everyone entered may have to take a copy of

2010 Australian Supersprint Championship

Sporting Regulations from CAMs website with them - attached

SP10_Supersprint_Sporting_Regulations_Q310.pdf

hmmm, I called earlier and spoke to Bill. I asked him what class a 180SX should be in, as by-the-book its not eligible for either IPRA or 2B/2F, he said "it would probably end up in sports cars". After that we got sidetracked on that topic and I forgot to ask about how strictly IPRA regs would be enforced... doh...

I'm sending an entry in anyway, so I'll see you guys there :thumbsup:

Cal, its not that hard to get a money order or a CAMS licence. Do it! It will be fun to have a run on a different track.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Latest Posts

    • Hey Dave, welcome aboard! Good to see another soon-to-be Stagea owner here. The wagons are awesome — plenty of space, still got that Skyline DNA, and loads of potential if you’re into mods. Definitely post up pics when you get it, everyone here loves seeing new builds. What model/year are you looking at?
    • See if you can thermal epoxy a heatsink or two onto it?
    • The other problem was one of those "oh shit we are going to die moments". Basically the high spec Q50s have a full electric steering rack, and the povo ones had a regular hydraulic rack with an electric pump.  So couple of laps into session 5 as I came into turn 2 (big run off now, happily), the dash turned into a christmas tree and the steering became super heavy and I went well off. I assumed it was a tyre failure so limped to the pits, but everything was OK. But....the master warning light was still on so I checked the DTCs and saw – C13E6 “Heat Protection”. Yes, that bloody steering rack computer sitting where the oil cooler should be has its own sensors and error logic, and decided I was using the steering wheel too much. I really appreciated the helpful information in the manual (my bold) POSSIBLE CAUSE • Continuing the overloading steering (Sports driving in the circuit etc,) “DATA MONITOR” >> “C/M TEMPERATURE”. The rise of steering force motor internal temperature caused the protection function to operate. This is not a system malfunction. INSPECTION END So, basically the electric motor in the steering rack got to 150c, and it decided to shut down without warning for my safety. Didn't feel safe. Short term I'll see if I can duct some air to that motor (the engine bay is sealed pretty tight). Long term, depending on how often this happens, I'll look into swapping the povo spec electric/hydraulic rack in. While the rack should be fine the power supply to the pump will be a pain and might be best to deal with it when I add a PDM.
    • And finally, 2 problems I really need to sort.  Firstly as Matt said the auto trans is not happy as it gets hot - I couldn't log the temps but the gauge showed 90o. On the first day I took it out back in Feb, because the coolant was getting hot I never got to any auto trans issues; but on this day by late session 3 and then really clearly in 4 and 5 as it got hotter it just would not shift up. You can hear the issue really clearly at 12:55 and 16:20 on the vid. So the good news is, literally this week Ecutek finally released tuning for the jatco 7 speed. I'll have a chat to Racebox and see what they can do electrically to keep it cooler and to get the gears, if anything. That will likely take some R&D and can only really happen on track as it never gets even warm with road use. I've also picked up some eye wateringly expensive Redline D6 ATF to try, it had the highest viscosity I could find at 100o so we will see if that helps (just waiting for some oil pan gaskets so I can change it properly). If neither of those work I need to remove the coolant/trans interwarmer and the radiator cooler and go to an external cooler....somewhere.....(goodbye washer reservoir?), and if that fails give up on this mad idea and wait for Nissan to release the manual 400R
    • So, what else.... Power. I don't know what it is making because I haven't done a post tune dyno run yet; I will when I get a chance. It was 240rwkw dead stock. Conclusion from the day....it does not need a single kw more until I sort some other stuff. It comes on so hard that I could hear the twin N1 turbos on the R32 crying, and I just can't use what it has around a tight track with the current setup. Brakes. They are perfect. Hit them hard all day and they never felt like having an issue; you can see in the video we were making ground on much lighter cars on better tyres under brakes. They are standard (red sport) calipers, standard size discs in DBA5000 2 piece, Winmax pads and Motul RBF600 fluid, all from Matty at Racebrakes Sydney. Keeping in mind the car is more powerful than my R32 and weighs 1780, he clearly knows his shit. Suspension. This is one of the first areas I need to change. It has electronically controlled dampers from factory, but everything is just way too soft for track work even on the hardest setting (it is nice when hustling on country roads though). In particular it rolls into oversteer mid corner and pitches too much under hard braking so it becomes unstable eg in the turn 1 kink I need to brake early, turn through the kink then brake again so I don't pirouette like an AE86. I need to get some decent shocks with matched springs and sway bars ASAP, even if it is just a v1 setup until I work out a proper race/rally setup later. Tyres. I am running Yoko A052 in 235/45/18 all round, because that was what I could get in approximately the right height on wheels I had in the shed (Rays/Nismo 18x8 off the old Leaf actually!). As track tyres they are pretty poor; I note GTSBoy recently posted a porker comparo video including them where they were about the same as AD09.....that is nothing like a top line track tyre. I'll start getting that sorted but realistically I should get proper sized wheels first (likely 9.5 +38 front and 11 +55 at the rear, so a custom order, and I can't rotate them like the R32), then work out what the best tyre option is. BTW on that, Targa Tas had gone to road tyres instead of semi slicks now so that is a whole other world of choices to sort. Diff. This is the other thing that urgently needs to be addressed. It left massive 1s out of the fish hook all day, even when I was trying not too (you can also hear it reving on the video, and see the RPM rising too fast compared to speed in the data). It has an open diff that Infiniti optimistically called a B-LSD for "Brake Limited Slip Diff". It does good straight line standing start 11s but it is woeful on the track. Nismo seem to make a 2 way for it.
×
×
  • Create New...