Skyline Mods Vs Nsw Police

[nathanau]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can't "retune" a standard R34ECU without a daughterboard/flash. They might be able to take out timing etc mechanically, but that's about it. As with all the answers

1. Get a standard air box, with snorkel- EPA can and will say "no" to a pod in a box. Better to get standard to pass.

2. Get a SMIC from the wreckers

3. Get a Nissan standard Plumb back "recirc" valve- wreckers as well- takes about 10 mins to install dude

4. Change your number plates- it's def possible the previous owners have a bad driving record

5. Go to an exhaust shop, get them to check Decibel level. If under, it doesn't matter if it's a cannon or oval exhaust, it will be legal. As long as it doesn't sit low your fine

Heya Divoodoo,

Thanks for that step-by-step process, made that pretty easy for me, I appreciate your help with that (and everyone’s too!!). As i said ive never had a performance car, never had cops trouble either, till now, it’s a totally new experience for me. It’s changed my opinion of the Police, i now sypmathise with anyone who has a nicely done up car. It was funny the other day as i was being booked for my car that is in as new condition, a smokey rust bucket drove past and the cops couldn’t have cared less for it, yet someone who has a car "As New" (faultless) gets into trouble. It really highlights how concerned cops are for safety.....it is nothing but revenue raising opportunity for the state and a promotional one for them.

I have a log, i am writing down all the incidents, times, places, badge numbers, cars, times, etc. I found it interesting again the other night a highway Patrol car was parked not far from here on the side of the road in a dark spot, i barely even saw it, it was so dark and as i passed them they came out putting a little distance between them and me. They drove without headlights thinking i couldn’t see them and followed me for some time. I suddenly pulled into someone’s driveway and parked right up at their roller doors, (no idea who they were and i didn’t care) at that point they put their headlights on and just kept driving. No one from the house came out... but i would have explained i have the wrong home if they did and appologise.

Someone offered me an original air system to replace the pod so i have that.

I don’t know what a SMIC is? I’d be grateful if you could explain that one.

Ill go to Jap spares? In Sydney for the recirc.

New set of Plates GREAT IDEA!

Also ill go to an exhaust shop today for a decibel check:)

Ill post photos of the Intercooler, BOV and exhaust today:) that BOV is pretty funny i think not that i know so much but it just looks funny, so small and it dose nothing pretty much as it sits. It does make a little 'flutter' sound changing gears, very soft, and at high revs it makes a "whip cracking" sound but also you have to really listen for it. Heres some pics of the parts and car.

[mad082]

that's not a cannon exhaust, it's an oval muffler, so that's why it is nice and quiet. you could always try painting it matt black to try to disguise it a bit. it will at least be 1 less shiny object that the police will notice at a distance.

as for the bov, putting a stock one back on will make it run a touch better as well as being one less thing for the police to pick on.

[.:: GimpS-R34 ::.]

Yeah OK that is an ATMO BOV.. Just change it to standard.. i saw one for sale on the forums so should be easy to pick up..

That's not a cannon.. it's a muffler.. So what's the problem.. Some.. And yes I'm saying some police are f**ken right wankers.. At least my experience has been (was before i got an import and was not car related)...

Look at fixing the obvious ones that police can tell, mainly BOV (if they actually know what/where it is) and the POD.. And then change number plates and stay "hidden" for a little bit and see if that helps..

Edited September 24, 2010 by .:: GimpS-R34 ::.

[nathanau]

Just find someone with a standard R34 GTT blow-off-valve and put it on to pass the inspection/emmissions test. The standard blow-off valves "recirculate" the air back into the intake instead of venting it to the atmosphere, therefore not releasing any potentially harmful gasses into the atmosphere (in the eyes of the law); although you exhaust releases a lot more =\

Thanks for that, seems this recir valve is the best way to do it. Rarely does that law make sense, its geared to revenue only for the majority of the time.

[nathanau]

Yeah OK that is an ATMO BOV.. Just change it to standard.. i saw one for sale on the forums so should be easy to pick up..

That's not a cannon.. it's a muffler.. So what's the problem.. Some.. And yes I'm saying some police are f**ken right wankers.. At least my experience has been (was before i got an import and was not car related)...

Look at fixing the obvious ones that police can tell, mainly BOV (if they actually know what/where it is) and the POD.. And then change number plates and stay "hidden" for a little bit and see if that helps..

Well seems the Muffler is ok then..... but the DECC guy said it was a bit iffy.... I will get a recir valve from the wreckers i guess or find one here, the only thing left that seems might be an issue is the Intercooler, without it, the front end would look pretty weird with a big hole in it, could fill it with a grill thingy but still, in retrospect, what a stupid set up we have with the Law, one day people might take back Australia for the people, not the Gov.

[NYTSKY]

Unfortunately threads like this will be popping up more and more

For some reason the Police are targeting ALL modified vehicles, issuing defects and DECC notices.

Myself and my friends with modified vehicles are also going through the DECC process.

Basically you have two options:

1) Return the car to an almost stock form. (For people with heavily modified vehicles like myself this is not an option)

2) Change existing mods to comply with Engineers and IM240 certificates.

If you get DECC'd and go to the DECC inspection without any documentation, you are wasting your time and $60. The inspector will tell you the car needs to be returned to stock.

If you go there with an engineers certificate and a PASS on your IM240 test, you have a MUCH better chance of passing. Then again it is all up to the discretion of the inspector, but if he can see you are trying to pass by coming prepared and presenting a good attitude it works in your favour.

You CANNOT take the car there with mods just for passing then putting back on all your goodies afterwards, the inspector takes more photos of your car than a model shoot and are sent to the DECC. So if you are caught again you will be up for MASSIVE fines!

For vehicles manufactured after 98-00' it is much harder to pass the IM240 because new Euro emission standards are very strict.

Larger cam profiles also hinder your chances of passing as the lope on idle plays havoc with the testing equipment.

Also at present there are no exemptions for flex fuel vehicles.

I hope some of this info helps.

[nathanau]

Unfortunately threads like this will be popping up more and more

For some reason the Police are targeting ALL modified vehicles, issuing defects and DECC notices.

Myself and my friends with modified vehicles are also going through the DECC process.

Basically you have two options:

1) Return the car to an almost stock form. (For people with heavily modified vehicles like myself this is not an option)

2) Change existing mods to comply with Engineers and IM240 certificates.

If you get DECC'd and go to the DECC inspection without any documentation, you are wasting your time and $60. The inspector will tell you the car needs to be returned to stock.

If you go there with an engineers certificate and a PASS on your IM240 test, you have a MUCH better chance of passing. Then again it is all up to the discretion of the inspector, but if he can see you are trying to pass by coming prepared and presenting a good attitude it works in your favour.

You CANNOT take the car there with mods just for passing then putting back on all your goodies afterwards, the inspector takes more photos of your car than a model shoot and are sent to the DECC. So if you are caught again you will be up for MASSIVE fines!

For vehicles manufactured after 98-00' it is much harder to pass the IM240 because new Euro emission standards are very strict.

Larger cam profiles also hinder your chances of passing as the lope on idle plays havoc with the testing equipment.

Also at present there are no exemptions for flex fuel vehicles.

I hope some of this info helps.

That info sure heaps me alot thanx u!!! I did pay to have (early in the peace....) an engineers cert produced. Not sure what that is exactly but ill check it out ( 7am i just getting home to bed was in city tonight, no one stopped me, must be a Police Holiday...) and ill post the details of the engineers cert etc etc but thanx for your time and the DECC guy told me that BOV will be illegal to even sell in Australia as of next year. Ya right, its getting harder to 'breath'! bbs:)

[Touge Kyousou]

So full of )%&@*%&) crap these revenue raising quotas that they have to fill but that's for another thread. Like it matters anyways, just look at what developing countries are pumping out heh. There's a fine line between social responsibility and bending over the people...

+1 to what Nytsky said...all modified vehicles are being targeted even my old man in his 97 aus delivered hatchback corolla got defected - and that is externally quite stock.

To pass, he tuned the car to pass im240 and redid his eng. cert. to reflect newer mods/conversions since the last eng. cert.

On another forum, a guy with a bog stock zze122 corolla got defected for running an upper model's tire size only. GL to everyone having to go through this process and if you want to pass the im240 test, there's a tuner in penrith that does emissions tune for you (i'm sure most of you will know anyways though but pm me if you'd like). There's also info in guilt-toys thread about tuning to pass the test if you wanted to use your own tuner.

Gimme a call when there's a revolution.

[nathanau]

I started this post last Thursday, as can see ive been asking for help in regard to taking care of these problems reading back on these post, and have not ignored the issues at all.

Couldnt do much Saturday and sunday. But yesterday AGAIN was followed, driving in a manner SAFE, doing the right thing when i was stopped AGAIN, car was issued a defect notice described as SERIOUS because the center part of the exhaust is 70mill off the ground, (approx) I was fined for the BOV and fined for the Pod.

And again the Police openly admit they will discriminate against ANY skyline and also mentioned same for WRX.

Again i asked as to why im being stopped as many as three times a day and at least 4 a week for DOING the right thing. They explained the above.

The country we live in is farrrrrrr out of control and this type of behavior from Police has to stop. Its not right. I was clearly in the process of taking care of these issues when they arose but MORE revenue for the state and i understand that each time a ticket is issued by a cop , it adds up to a promotion for him, the more they issue the higher they go, Imagine that??? the more you are a C**T the higher up the ladder u crawl.

Edited September 26, 2010 by nathanau

[.:: GimpS-R34 ::.]

take a voice recorder.. get it on record with their voice, badge number, name, etc.. then present it as evidence saying they are pulling you over just because of the car you drive..

[nathanau]

Here is a outline of the letter i am writing, It is being sent to my local member of parliament, NSW Police, NSW Police commissioner, anti discrimination board, equal opportunities board, Civil liberties board, Australian Human rights commission, Legal services Australia, my barristers and solicitor. All i can do is try to resolve these issues. The fines may stand but the discrimination is unacceptable.

I will post any and all replies from these groups as i receive them.

"Dear Sir/Madem,

I write with concern to discrimination and harassment I am suffering by the NSW Police.

I am enclosing supporting documents and will try to be brief with my introduction. Approximately 6 weeks ago I purchased a car after my last one was no longer repairable.

I have extensive physical injuries caused on the ../../2008 due to a driver traveling on the wrong side of the eastern distributor, that driver collected me (total impact at 140Ks an hour) I was cut our by Police Rescue and have since being attending rehabilitation with a range of doctors/specialist in Sydney.

In light of my area being semi rural and my inability to travel on very limited public transport my Solicitor arranged an advance for me to purchase another car so I can travel.

Since I have had that car over the last 6 or so weeks, I am being stopped, on a daily basis, I am being followed by Police, even at night, Police have followed me driving without their headlights on so I cannot see them and I have suffered a RANGE of stops, even while stopped or parked, daily and weekly. There is OBVIOUS discrimination taking place that I do not understand or accept. I am being harassed and targeted in most cases without cause. Prior to owing my new car, I have only been stopped once by Police in the last 2.8 years.

The Police have on two occasions (last one being yesterday at.................) and while recording with their in car video admitted they will discriminate against me each time they see my car.

My car does not stand out, it is not driven in a manner unsafe. The make/model is a Skyline. The Police admitted on their in car video they will each and every time stop my car when seen and if I do not like it, sell the car. This has become so regular I believe I am unable to travel to Sydney, I am unable to continue rehabilitation and specialist treatments. I am being blackmailed into selling my car with the comments/threats made, or suffer further harassment, discrimination.

I am being stopped as much as 4 times a day and 6 times a week, in fact it is every single time I use my car (4 to 6 times a week) . I am detained for up to 45 minutes on each stop. I do not have a criminal record nor have I had trouble with the Police. I am 44 years of age and lead a very quiet life even more so having the disabilities I have.

I am enclosing a letter I wrote to Traffic Support regarding some fines issued. On two occasions I overtook not pulling back onto my side of the road but leaving my return too long (an offense I was not aware of but booked twice for the same offense) . Parking in disabled area, ( i am entitled to park) Police saw me park , but did not speak to me about it, they waited for me to park, leave my vehicle, they then followed me on foot for some distance eventually asking me to come back to my car. Why if I was committing an offense did Police not stop me and speak with me then, why did they allow anything to continue, even following me on foot only to eventually ask me to return to my car? There are a serious number of questions that must be asked and addressed with regard to the manner in which Police are targeting me.

The center exhaust is 30 millimeters too low. Fined. The car when purchased came with an air filter not standard, Fined. The car also came with a small air release valve that it requires, Fined. I became aware of those issues last Thursday and am in the process of rectifying them. The car was issued with a DECC notice on another occasion and the car was inspected by the DECC last Thursday the 23/09/2010. The DECC have asked me to repair these issues this week and return the car to them for final clearance. This was well in the process, but I cannot even take the car out for repairs without being fined, stopped, harassed, held up for extended periods, followed, searched, and so forth. This type of behavior is unwarranted and is unacceptable.

I have well documented these minor repairs were well underway however I am still being booked. What is unacceptable is that Police openly admit to me they will discriminate against me each any every time they see me. This is of MAJOR concern. The basis for this has been explained to me by Police for driving a Nissan Skyline. This is just a car like many cars, it is in show room condition, it is an outstanding example of very well looked after and maintained motor vehicle.

I am also being advised by NSW Police if I do not like being stopped as many times each day sell my car. I cannot justify these actions as acceptable practice and I believe I have the right to drive in a manner safe without being stopped as many times, detained numerous times each day and weekly simply because of the make of car I own.

I am enclosing paper work to support this letter and would appreciate your earliest advice as I can no longer continue any rehabilitation in Sydney, I am being forced to cancel all medical treatments and rehabilitation as a result of the discrimination, harassment and frankly my fear of Police when traveling.

Edited September 26, 2010 by nathanau

[Chibs]

NSW police.... WHAT A JOKE

[nathanau]

Here is a list of the people i am writing to.

anyone else who may have similar problems also should write:

NSW Police

Patrol Commander

Southern Region

Suite 2, Level 1, Corner of Auburn and Montague Streets

GOULBURN NSW 2580

CC:

Minister for Police

The Hon. Michael Daley MP

Governor Macquarie Tower, Level 34

1 Farrer Place SYDNEY NSW 2000

CC:

NSW Police Commissioner

Andrew Scipione

Locked bag 5102

Parramatta NSW 2124

CC:

NSW Police

Traffic Support Group,

11 Liberty Drive,

HUNTINGWOOD NSW 2148

CC: NSW Ombudsman

Level 24

580 George Street

SYDNEY NSW 2000

CC:

Legal Services Australia

88 Walker Street

NORTH SYDNEY NSW 2060

CC:

Anti discrimination Board

Postal address

PO Box A2122, SYDNEY SOUTH NSW 1235

CC:

Human Rights Commission

Director, Complaint Handling

Australian Human Rights Commission

GPO Box 5218

SYDNEY NSW 2001

CC: Local Member of Parliament (Mp)

CC: Civil Liberties Australia

PO Box 7438

FISHER ACT 2611

Edited September 27, 2010 by nathanau

[DR 32R]

Will be following you case closely, thanks for keeping us posted.

[mad082]

why not also send it to today tonight, or ACA. see if they will come and spend a day driving around with you and they can secretly record what happens.

[nathanau]

why not also send it to today tonight, or ACA. see if they will come and spend a day driving around with you and they can secretly record what happens.

Kinda one step ahead there, i already did. Wrote to both of them and invited them to spend a day driving with me to see what happens. If we spent say 6 hours and crossed various Sydney suburbs they would be able to film many stops by Police. What is interesting is that i just had a call from a Sargent of Police about 5 minutes ago in relation to these issues. He has said that he is happy to put a WARNING onto the Police system for other Police to see that the car does in fact comply, that Police have inspected it along with its paperwork are satisfied the car is legal, he said he cannot stop Police from pulling the car up but he said that warning should demonstrate to Police there would be no reason to actually stop the car (providing they check the rego out BEFORE they pull it up)

Not sure if this address the issues, it is very helpful that the Sargent will do that but i still believe there may well be serious discrimination issues that will continue.

Edited September 27, 2010 by nathanau

[DR 32R]

For what it's worth, I'll send a letter to Bob Katter MP a strong ethanol fuel advocate, seeking exemption for e70/85 flex fuellers.

[mr 32]

keen to see what happens with this.

just a question, do you still have the same rego plates as when you bought it?

could be possible that the last owner was a bit smart with the local authorities, they might have left a note on the rego plates in there system

[dont_ask]

MAD082 thats a good idea send it to today tonight and A current afair to see what they think.

I recently got my R34 GTT and i have been pull over a couple of times. I dont have any mod except a turbo back canon which came with the car during import. Everything else is dead stock nothing else has been change except after market head deck. Which I doubt is a defect.

They said a canon is completely illegal and you can not have it. My car pass compliance with a canon. At the end I did not get fine but got a warning. I seriously think the police is just wasting time especially the highway patrol.

[nathanau]

For what it's worth, I'll send a letter to Bob Katter MP a strong ethanol fuel advocate, seeking exemption for e70/85 flex fuellers.

Hey there, not sure what the exemption relates to? Im guessing there is something else they can 'shoot me for' that im not aware of?