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For the Sake of everyone here, i will try AGAIN .. to make things a bit clearer

Firstly, if so many people have a problem with me, or think I have a problem with them, its funny that it hasn't ever come up. Although, I'm very happy they've chosen such a bright and intelligent and caring young lad to voice their concerns to.

- They Havnt asked me to speak up for them, however i am choosing to speak up for them .. the reaons no one has spoken up about this yet is simply because they dont want to cause any problems, the same reason i didnt speak up .. but you kept puching things futher and futher that ive chosen to speak up politly before some one else speaks up not so politly

Secondly, you got cut at me allegedly making 3-4 nasty comments about you so you decided to bite back thus insinuating that you took it to heart. However, later in the post you tell me its 'just the internet'. Would you like to make your mind up?

- I havnt taken anything to heart, the comments you kept making made me and other members feel uncomfortable about speaking to you ..

Thirdly, if you have such a huge problem with me and would like to make a spectacle of it, why not come to my face and say something. Or are you too much of a coward for that as well?

- read what i said firtly .. i was willing to let sleeping dogs lay, but yoy choose to ask me if i have a problem with you in a thread .. i was simply replying hence the reaosn why i havnt told you face to face

Fourthly, if you want to show the pictures to everyone, here, have all of them. I'll do it for you to save you the time and effort seeming I'm not worth it.

- I actually stumbled across the picture by accident and posted it as a joke .. more like 'hey look what ive found' it was light hearted and non offencive .. and im sorry if you took offence to it.

I am going to leave this conversation at that, i apoligise if you have taken offence to any comment directed at you, however to be honest any coment i have made in the bast 2 weeks has not been directed at you

i simply ask in return that you dont speak down to me or any other member that finds your comments demeaning ..

Im happy to speak with you .. but you must realise everyone is equal, no one is better then each other.

Thats my 2 cents, and for the sake of this community i have asked the conversation to be left at that

nismo girl - **** woman .. you are so far off track i aint even going to waste my time with trying to sort shit out..

i tried to speak to you politely and let you know that the reason i was being a slight disrespectful to you  was because of your attitude towards me and some members.. who have voiced there opionion to me about you (anyone on the glow warm crawl was a witness)

you cant say i didnt try to sort shit out ..

i was simply letting you know, and not having a go at you or anything ... but if you wanna play ****ing games .. then im all up for it

Don't get out of it that easy mindflux...

I'm fine :D

good :D .. then join in the chit chat...

MF did have a point there though.. this is the internet ... anything and everything goes...

NEXUS once said that the reason i volunteered to be the rear in cruise is becos i'm NA ... *sniff... still smarting abit from that one :D

For the Sake of everyone here, i will try AGAIN .. to make things a bit clearer

Firstly, if so many people have a problem with me, or think I have a problem with them, its funny that it hasn't ever come up. Although, I'm very happy they've chosen such a bright and intelligent and caring young lad to voice their concerns to.

- They Havnt asked me to speak up for them, however i am choosing to speak up for them .. the reaons no one has spoken up about this yet is simply because they dont want to cause any problems, the same reason i didnt speak up .. but you kept puching things futher and futher that ive chosen to speak up politly before some one else speaks up not so politly

Secondly, you got cut at me allegedly making 3-4 nasty comments about you so you decided to bite back thus insinuating that you took it to heart. However, later in the post you tell me its 'just the internet'. Would you like to make your mind up?

- I havnt taken anything to heart, the comments you kept making made me and other members feel uncomfortable about speaking to you ..

Thirdly, if you have such a huge problem with me and would like to make a spectacle of it, why not come to my face and say something. Or are you too much of a coward for that as well?

- read what i said firtly .. i was willing to let sleeping dogs lay, but yoy choose to ask me if i have a problem with you in a thread .. i was simply replying hence the reaosn why i havnt told you face to face

Fourthly, if you want to show the pictures to everyone, here, have all of them. I'll do it for you to save you the time and effort seeming I'm not worth it.

- I actually stumbled across the picture by accident and posted it as a joke .. more like 'hey look what ive found' it was light hearted and non offencive .. and im sorry if you took offence to it.

I am going to leave this conversation at that, i apoligise if you have taken offence to any comment directed at you, however to be honest any coment i have made in the bast 2 weeks has not been directed at you

i simply ask in return that you dont speak down to me or any other member that finds your comments demeaning ..

Im happy to speak with you .. but you must realise everyone is equal, no one is better then each other.

Thats my 2 cents, and for the sake of this community i have asked the conversation to be left at that

I reckon you have taken it to heart :kick:

Im not even on the same 'posts per page' setting as you guys.....so when you all say "PAGE ME" i have no idea what is going on. And i quite like it that way. With my setup, i can 'own pages' all night without anyone else knowing it. God i'm proud of myself.

:D

glenn, i seem to get dragged into other things on thurs nights and no one seems to be will to go cruising out my way.  Im off the crutches and walking or should i say badly limping.  but i can drive!!!!

just like old man Jay :D

but you are gonna make it for the big cruise right? been wanting to see your car in the flesh since forever.

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