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whats the point of comparing bikes to cars?

Just don't underestimate the skyline. I have a modded k1 gsxr 750. And 99% of cars i drag up the hume highway, i totally rape. But once i went up aginst a r32, i riped it off the start but i can't believe it. it started to beat me at 200m buy a car lenght i no im not a bad driver and there was nafin wrong wif my bike but dam, it was weired. Don't underestimate the skyline + just wanted to no how well u guys handled it against a bike.

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There's a few annecdotal whispers you pick up here and there about 300+ kW GTS/GT-R's that take down some largish bikes in certain situations.

You can guess where 4wd and perhaps the ability to drop 300kW to the road on four A4 sized sheets of paper as tyre contact patches is better than say 100kW on an area the size of a cigarette packet.

Say an 300kW GT-R on a slick winding road vs. an average bike like a 75kW Honda VFR-750FN... I can see which vehicle is going to keep ahead.

4 x 245/40/17 tyres vs. a single back rim.... I bet on the Skyline.

As always, drag racing bikes is a dangerous sport, even more so than drag racing other cars.

T.

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Just don't underestimate the skyline. I have a modded k1 gsxr 750. And 99% of cars i drag up the hume highway, i totally rape. But once i went up aginst a r32, i riped it off the start but i can't believe it. it started to beat me at 200m buy a car lenght i no im not a bad driver and there was nafin wrong wif my bike but dam, it was weired.  Don't underestimate the skyline + just wanted to no how well u guys handled it against a bike.

A modified GTR will keep up with a 750cc, and even beat it, depending on what's been done to it.

Stock vs. stock, no contest.

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I was at a "private test track" when a turbo Hayabusa was laying down 8.6s over the 400m. The only reason it didn't go faster was traction was non-existant. The old bloke (58 yr old) riding it took it to Europe in 2002 and only three cars kept up with him, and one decimated him.

Kept Up: An insanely modded R33 GT-R with over 1000hp (big twin-turbo, high-mount), a modified GT2 Porsche, race-modified F40 Ferrari.

Kicked His Arse: Dauer 962 LeMans Porsche (road car). He was saying that he ran his bike up to 260km/h on an AutoStrada (in Italy) and passed the Dauer who dropped it a peg or two and roared past. The bike dude thought it would be easy pickings so he would up the 'Busa and tried to catch the car. Didn't happen. Bike-bloke came back here and researched what kind of car it was and he's now saving the $2million he needs to buy one.

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I have an r1 in the garage, and believe me, only italys finest or Japanese heavyweight is going to beat one of these in a straight line. Hows 135km in first gear sound, with five more to go? If you know how to slip the clutch and keep the front down, even the four wheel drive traction makes little difference. Likes its been said, your gonna need near 900 rwkw to match the power to weight of these crotch rockets, but give em a go, they love some sort of challenge!!

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I have an r1 in the garage, and believe me, only italys finest or Japanese heavyweight is going to beat one of these in a straight line. Hows 135km in first gear sound, with five more to go? If you know how to slip the clutch and keep the front down, even the four wheel drive traction makes little difference. Likes its been said, your gonna need near 900 rwkw to match the power to weight of these crotch rockets, but give em a go, they love some sort of challenge!!

hey Matixx seems like ur into ur bikes, just wondering. Im planning to upgrade my bike soon to either to a 2003 r1 or a 2003 gsxr 1000 wat do u think should i try the yamahas since i had a gixxer.

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mate have a go. I love the yammies, but the new gixers are starting to look mean too! Power is irrelevant, they are similar and you're never going to get a chance to thrash the thing within an inch of its life, gotta respect these things or you'll end up arse raped on the asphalt. I think it comes down to personal preference and rideablilty/comfort. I have a 2000 model, it was my favorite of pick, as after this they changed the shape a little and I didnt like the curves as much. I got an undertray which eliminates the dicky rear fender, and took some of the stickers off, looks cleaner all blue. Also you can pick up 98 -2000 models for under 10 g if you shop around. good luck with your choice

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if anyone is interested , probably not, i have raced a gsxr 1000 on the straight and i got him by about 1 car length, thats on the road not track, as most people know on the track bikes are much quicker, but if anyone has any doubts dont hesitate to message me and ill gladly meet anyone in sydney to show why bikes are good for weekends, but skylines(with a little mods) are fun every day, ( ok maybe more then a few mods)

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i have mate in melbourne, who's bored of dragging coz noone keeps up, & those who know the car refuse to drag him... so the only things he drag are r1's. he reckon's upto ~200k's he beats em, but then they leave him. Ohh, it aint one of italy's finest "I didn't know italian made the finest :D" nor is it one of japans finest either. How about one of Oztralia's finest XE falcon, 250 crossflow, straight gas running 10's street! soon it will be in the 9's. I'd mentioned the car but then all you chapel street whores would jerry & we dont want the spying eyes of the boys in blue asking him for his autograph :)

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